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Oct 10, 2013 6:17 AM

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Detrimont said:
that's it, KanaHana NEEDS to voice a extreme tsundere character now, her talent is being wasted on pretty much the same voice every time

She already did.
Sakura Ichiko from 'Bimbougami ga!', Marie from Persona 4 Golden, Kuroneko from OreImo and some anime that I have yet to watch.
Oct 10, 2013 6:47 AM

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Why am I continually hearing mention of HanaKana yet none of Chiwa Saito, the ultimate Seiyuu along with Hiroshi Kamiya?
Oct 10, 2013 8:33 AM
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Dang...dat ending..didnt see that coming. Just another reason to love this series 11/10
Oct 10, 2013 9:31 AM

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yukaru00 said:
Either way, I still think that Shinbo used this as an excuse though. 2 cours are pretty much compact anyways to cover all the 5 volumes. Also, as much as those recaps are meant to keep his staff steady, those recaps are also meant to recover the delayed Hanamonogatari slots.
It may be an excuse but no one can deny that it is indeed the first time Shaft works in a 2-cour series, so at least on this regard Shinbo was not lying and what this means for staff resource and schedule is, of course, something that only Shinbo knows, not us. And surely he judged that 2 cour for 5 volumes is going to be too much work and too tight schedule for them. So I'd rather give him the benefit of doubt instead of just dismissing his words because we don't like the outcome.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 10, 2013 9:58 AM

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symbv said:
It may be an excuse but no one can deny that it is indeed the first time Shaft works in a 2-cour series, so at least on this regard Shinbo was not lying and what this means for staff resource and schedule is, of course, something that only Shinbo knows, not us. And surely he judged that 2 cour for 5 volumes is going to be too much work and too tight schedule for them. So I'd rather give him the benefit of doubt instead of just dismissing his words because we don't like the outcome.


Tsukuyomi Moonphase, Pani Poni Dash and Negima are Shinbo's past works under SHAFT and these three series are 2 cours.
Maybe they just went understaffed at the moment, thus cannot fully going on rampage.
Well, considering their Madoka movie projects.
Well, it is not like I am totally not liking the outcomes of Monogatari SS. Neko Shiro and Otori (so far) were indeed good results. It seems like I have put on great expectation towards that certain arc, and they didn't deliver it up to 50% of my expectation. To be fair, they have successfully delivered Neko Shiro pretty well (so as Otori), only that they have fucked up that certain arc.

Also, here, I am not totally dismissing Shinbo's words, I am only expressing my dissatisfaction towards some outcomes. That is all. Well, humans are not perfect after all.
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Oct 10, 2013 4:09 PM

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Grouchio said:
Why am I continually hearing mention of HanaKana yet none of Chiwa Saito, the ultimate Seiyuu along with Hiroshi Kamiya?


The other two seiyuu you mentioned are fantastic and have their moments, but in this specific episode, it was all about KanaHana's skills really shining out there. So all this craze about her is understandable.
Oct 10, 2013 6:57 PM
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Grouchio said:
Why am I continually hearing mention of HanaKana yet none of Chiwa Saito, the ultimate Seiyuu along with Hiroshi Kamiya?


Because Senjougahara wasn't in this episode, and Koyomi had one line(plus, we already know Hiroshi Kamiya is great(Izaya, Mr.Despair, Koyomi, need i say more))
Oct 11, 2013 1:02 AM

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yukaru00 said:
Tsukuyomi Moonphase, Pani Poni Dash and Negima are Shinbo's past works under SHAFT and these three series are 2 cours.
You forgot the fact that Gansis co-made Pani Pon and Negima!? Even Moonphase was made almost 10 years ago with a different staff situation for Shaft and a lot more subcontracting.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 11, 2013 1:28 AM

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symbv said:
yukaru00 said:
Tsukuyomi Moonphase, Pani Poni Dash and Negima are Shinbo's past works under SHAFT and these three series are 2 cours.
You forgot the fact that Gansis co-made Pani Pon and Negima!? Even Moonphase was made almost 10 years ago with a different staff situation for Shaft and a lot more subcontracting.


I noticed the joint-work stuff. The difference in staff also play an important role in this kind of situations. I know that. I have worked (at least for short while) in animation company and I understand the situation SHAFT and many animation company suffered all this time. I am not to blame 100% to SHAFT and Shinbo as some stuff might not work as planned throughout the process. As I said, I am just expressing my dissatisfaction towards some small stuff, not whole series. You do not have to take my rant so seriously.
Oct 12, 2013 1:26 PM

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It seems like Hanazawa really enjoyed being in rage mode. It would be great to do the same thing in real life without any consequences. And that heart attack ending...
Oct 12, 2013 4:38 PM
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The difference in her voice when she snaps...
Great episode.
Oct 12, 2013 7:14 PM

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Finally got around to watching this episode. I love this season of monogatari is deconstructing all the characters, especially Nadeko here. I can't believe I'm saying this about her, but she's really interesting. And major props to HanaKana!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7qFI7SaXsA
Oct 15, 2013 9:27 AM

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the op was great. so cute *u* but i think it was the same they used in one of the previous episodes? or they just sounded similiar.

omg, i had a genocider syo flashback o.o nadeko snapping was amazing! such a great scene, wow. and the voice acting gave me goosebumps. one of the best scenes so far. i think i've never heard kana hanazawa speaking like that. it definitely makes her so much more likeable. and it reminded me a lot of miyuki sawashiro :)

and the ending was fantastic as well. at first i wasn't sure if she'll wish for her love to be requited or for her love to vanish. but i didn't expect to see koyomi suddenly.
Oct 17, 2013 11:32 PM

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Dat rage
Dat Hanazawa-sama
Dat ending

One of the best episodes of the series.
Oct 23, 2013 4:53 PM

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Oh god, I never thought I'd see Nadeko like that...
Oct 26, 2013 11:03 AM

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omg Nadeko is pissed
Oct 27, 2013 1:01 AM

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Nadeko on the hot seat continues. If I thought it stopped with the hard-hitting Shinobu, I was plain wrong. This is part 2 with the just as hard-hitting Tsukihi.

The Snake and the Phoenix finally converse. I've known since Bakemonogatari that Nadeko and Tsukihi were same-aged childhood friends, but this is the very first time I've actually seen them both talk to each other in substantial fashion.

(I've also read somewhere that both Kana Hanazawa and Yuka Iguchi were friends at one point, but I rarely see them voice characters speaking to each other... so I also kept imagining the two of them having the conversation instead of their characters at some parts)

Holy shit, she kicked down the damn classroom door after snapping at her teacher. Then her class got TOLD with a "tirade of the decade" kind of rampage. HanaKana and her voice acting skill. <3
Oct 29, 2013 11:05 PM

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This whole arc is Nadeko getting called out on her crap. That must suck to have your whole way of life/personality thrown in your face like that and told it is self-serving and attention-seeking.

Gah that ending. How will this all turn out?~
Oct 30, 2013 12:49 AM

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GarLogan78 said:
This whole arc is Nadeko getting called out on her crap. That must suck to have your whole way of life/personality thrown in your face like that and told it is self-serving and attention-seeking.

Gah that ending. How will this all turn out?~


Well episode 15 IS out, but yeah.

Although to be fair, it's quite refreshing to see someone actually called out for being attention-seeking and relying on other people so much.
Nov 3, 2013 11:33 PM

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Wow KanaHana, you really out done yourself here with a very angry voice! First time I heard it, I was gaping in awe of your skill!

When I heard Koyomi's voice, I was like, oh shit gets serious!...amazing cliffhanger to a really amazing episode.

Huehue, that bookmark and Nadeko...what a shout-out to TWGOK!
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Nov 6, 2013 6:46 PM

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Good god, Sengoku snapped LOL
Nov 10, 2013 11:09 PM

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Watched the great voice acting by Hanazawa as her Nadeko erupted six times.

Still impressed by how Nadeko was furious, she still said the right point of view in her shouting speech to the class.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Nov 18, 2013 12:19 PM

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Whoa, Nadeko's snapping was done really nicely xP
Oh noes, I sense trouble in next episode! D:
Dec 5, 2013 7:54 AM

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Wow! That RAGE was awesome.
Also i laughed at Araraki's little sister going Sadako like.
Dec 10, 2013 5:41 PM

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Nadeko Sengoku in partial RINSE mode..
Dec 12, 2013 7:19 AM

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I love Nadeko and Tsukihi's morning bedhead...

and Nadeko's sudden outburst! Attagirl. That was pure entertainment. Seeing a silent person speak her piece for once.
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Dec 23, 2013 1:22 AM

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Nadeko rage mode was so cute. :p


Jan 3, 2014 2:57 PM

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Hahaha, that was crazy hearing Nadeko freak out like that. I actually just realized this episode how similar she is to myself... it's too bad that Serpent is probably a bad guy, he's really entertaining and it's fun to see him interacting with Nadeko. But of course, giving back her bangs is obviously what must lead to the whole Medusa hair from the start of this arc, so I doubt there's much chance of him being good.

Also, Koyomi popping in at the last minute... pretty excited for the next episode. xD
Jan 3, 2014 4:12 PM
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DAT HANAKANA VOICE ACTING!!
Oops, that cliffhanger kinda surprises me, i must admit..
10/10 would rewatch again
Jan 5, 2014 1:45 AM

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Oh, Tsukihi.. remember you had Touma.. oh wait
Tsukihi is so scary person.. Threaten a person with a punch in the stomach
Ana kotto ya, konna koto xD

Lol HanaKana into Sakura Ichiko's mode
Dat magazin-.. eh, I mean talisman
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Jan 9, 2014 9:54 AM

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Tsukihi seem quite surprised that Nadeko is in the place of Koyomi in his bed. Nadeko has the heck of a complex with herself being "cute" , Tsukihi has great skill with scissor cutting Nadeko's hair quite fast.
I wasn't expecting Nadeko persona breakdown to be so hard IMO ; shutting up the teacher and fucking a foot in the door she's fucking crazy. That face when she found Koyomi's porn ( so stunned ) and she get the talisman...fuck
Jan 18, 2014 5:01 PM

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Oh wow Nadeko sure has a huge hidden personality xD I cracked up when she started acting totally the opposite of that what she is xD And boy that ending! Epic episode!
Feb 14, 2014 4:50 AM

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Harem
Apr 15, 2014 7:41 PM

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One liner Araragi. What a ladykiller! He know how to make them wet.

Ouch, this entire episode hurted, from Tsukihi telling Nadeko her seven truth, Nadeko exploding at school, Nadeko insinuating that she want to die, Araragi telling her that her love will never be reciprocate. Shit's about to go down.

Damn, that first scene with Tsukihi... It was more scary than most horor movie :/
She looked literally crazy. The more she talked, the more angrier and aggressive she was getting. I was so much cringing during the whole scene.

Nadeko exploding felt so good. Finally, she was able to say what she really thought. She was able to break that shell, even if it was for a bried moment.

Ugh, when she told the snake that she was about to ''stop existing'' and so that they should end that story as soon as possible, it almost felt like she was telling her last word before dying. Then porn mags. Why do in anime, everyone have porn mags? Did no one have heard of the INTERNET in anime?

That arc... is really... painful... Please, end her suffer already.
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Apr 16, 2014 1:58 PM

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>Nadeko talking like Kuchinawa
LOOOL

I thought Shinobu and now Tsukihi were kind of attacking Sengoku out of the blue, but whatever, next is the conclusion, hope it'll deliver like the previous two.

In Shimbou we trust.
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Apr 26, 2014 11:09 PM

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good ep.
man sengoku can get fired up
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy."
May 1, 2014 3:05 PM

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It was hella kawaii when Nadeko adopted Kuchinawa's verbal tic. Or was it strangely appealing...
Jun 3, 2014 7:33 AM

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Sengoku Nadeko... Awakened moments!! Love the cool side.
She needs some good encourages for the better sake of her life.
Truth.. Now you know sengoku that he has a girlfriend. (She didn't know!? lol!!)
Did just tsukihi cut her hair again!? She has longer hair when I last seen her ..
you definitely look kawaii Sengoku!! She looks beautiful with a headband too.
Hime Cut with Sengoku is really good!!
HOLY!! Sengoku's delinquent side got spoiled alot!! damn so much for the sharp tongue .
Good job for the snake here.. I was getting bored on the same scenario.
YELLED LIKE A BOSS. damn so much for scene I LIKE IT .
That's for the retarded bastards around her.
Sengoku Nadeko got tired of all those shits that happening on her class... NUFF SAID.
Scumbags Hypocrites just got f*cked up nicely.
well... so much for that .. Finally , sengoku got beserk mode into them. it was nice!!
Nice tastes koyomi!!
That Straight rejection!! (is it a rejection!? maybe or maybe not!!..) Harem Lowering koyomi.
Pretty good Episode !!!
Great ED Song btw!!!
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Jul 13, 2014 9:09 PM

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Sengoku snaps and delivers a great life lesson speech. Well done class president. I'm sure your teacher would be proud of that.

Using a vitally important talisman as a bookmark for your fetish magazines. Only a badass would do that.
Aug 1, 2014 10:03 AM

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Watching this second season was officially worth it just so I could hear Hanazawa Kana's voice like that. Wow. Never imagined her voice being so different from pretty much all of her roles :D
Sep 2, 2014 6:03 PM
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Probably my favorite performance of Hanazawa. Just came out of nowhere. Sengoku by far my favorite character of the whole series.
Dec 18, 2014 6:05 AM

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Dat cliffhanger !!
Jan 4, 2015 6:00 PM

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That porn mag... HACHIKUJI?
Jan 19, 2015 9:58 AM
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how did I not see that coming
Mar 2, 2015 8:19 AM

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The episode maintains a calm narration and rich dialogues, as seen previously.
Not bad after all, since it takes advantage of this component to investigate more on the character of Nadeko.
Unexpected reaction of the protagonist in the end, what I do not understand is why the sister of Araragi has short hair here?
The drawings are not bad quality.
Apr 2, 2015 5:44 PM

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TIL never cut a little girls' bangs. Like never.
Jun 20, 2015 7:53 AM

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Woah dat rage!
Jun 22, 2015 4:08 PM

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This arc is simply amazing. One of my favorites of the entire series. Araragi's porn stash is discovered lololol.
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Jul 12, 2015 8:07 PM

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Holy fuck Nadeko. Damn calm down
Hi there
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Loved it. Gained a lot of respect for Sengoku
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