retrogamer32x said: I am going to make my obligatory mention that Eva borrowed its concept from Space Runaway Ideon. The issue of Childhood's end earlier is worth bringing up, though. Yoshiyuki Tomino loved American sci-fi, and Starship Troopers was one of his main inspirations for Gundam. Tomino drew on Childhood's End, as well as both the film and book versions of 2001: A Space Odyssey (2001 being a collaboration between Arthur C. Clarke, who wrote Childhood's End as well, and Stanley Kubrick) in creating Ideon. The Ideon finale movie, Be Invoked was mostly influenced by the film version of 2001 over the book. That's a long way of saying that if you throw Ideon, 2001 (film and book), and Childhood's End into a blender, you end up with something like Evangelion, so accusing shows of ripping it off isn't really a good argument to make. Good analysis. Yes I guess everyone/thing takes something from each other, with regard to story, concept, plot etc. |
Okashi_sama said: icirate said: One is an elegant deconstruction and reaffirmation of self-worth disguised as a mecha show and the other is bombastic nationalistic propaganda disguised as a mecha show. Conceptually they are as diverse as you can really get once you've looked past the surface. Deconstruction is a method for analyzing text. wtf are you talking about? Deconstruction is a simultaneous affirmation and undoing or in the case of NGE an affirmation of the tropes present in your average shounen mecha show and undoing by making the characters as mentally unhinged and terrified as the average teenager suddenly tasked with saving the world from an imminent and unknown threat really would be. An analysis given video form if you like. |
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Kreion said: If anything it's England who are being portrayed as Nazi's, there's nothing American about Britannia other than the fact it's based IN America. Which is pretty irrelevent in the grand scheme of things, all the ideals and aesthetic used are based on old British stuff. It's like this is set in an alternate history where we see a world war in which Japan is fighting against an allied Britain and America. You know, unlike the real world war in which Japan fought against an allied Britain and America Kreion said: No, they're not - at all. Suzaku is the only one who ever seems to give a damn about the country and even he doesn't in the later portion of the series, Lelouch often seems to shunt the interests of Japan aside in favour of his own personal interests. They're really don't do much for the country or much to inspire nationalism, hell, like I said, Leouch only uses that excuse when it's convenient for him to do so. The Chinese one I can agree with you with, anime has a bad habit of portraying them as the bad guys... Japan has NOTHING to do with it - Lelouch has never represented Japan |
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| I don't understand this thread. NGE is one of the most influential mecha of all time (and one of the most influential anime of all time for that matter); essentially every mecha released since it has been copying it. |
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| I can't really give much of an answer. I've seen code geass and I loved it. Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of watching evangelion. Funimation doesn't have a release for the original series yet so getting my hands on a physical copy wouldn't be cheap. From what I've been told from friends of mine, Evangelion served as the defining mecha of the 90's if not more than that. So possibly? Hard to tell without watching it. However, I'd like to push the point across that nothing which comes out these days are original. Whether it be Hollywood, anime or anything of the sort. Nothing which comes now is truly original. The works of today are usually paying homage to something. |
TheDerpMan said: I can't really give much of an answer. I've seen code geass and I loved it. Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of watching evangelion. Funimation doesn't have a release for the original series yet so getting my hands on a physical copy wouldn't be cheap. From what I've been told from friends of mine, Evangelion served as the defining mecha of the 90's if not more than that. So possibly? Hard to tell without watching it. However, I'd like to push the point across that nothing which comes out these days are original. Whether it be Hollywood, anime or anything of the sort. Nothing which comes now is truly original. The works of today are usually paying homage to something. Very true, few original works being churned out. And NGE has very fluid mecha animation (which still puts current mecha to shame) but its a defining anime in other aspects too, especially psychological. |
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| Hmmm.... let's see shall we, the death of the MC's mom being the catalyst of the story, the MC having a love interest that is weirdly connected with his mom, another love interest that is head strong and in a red skimpy outfit that also has mommy issues, the MC having childhood trauma due to his dad, said MC hating his dad, The dad doing weird shit with the love interest connected with the mother character, the plot to connect all humanity through God, the MC asking God not to go through with the plan, and etc. Yeah, pretty much it did rip off Eva. The people who say CG is a ripoff of Death Note is child's play when compared to this. I mean it's not bad at all to take inspiration from other works, hell Anno was inspired by a lot when he made Eva, but Eva was still its own thing. While with CG I think it's far too blatant. For me at least, cuz I really don't like CG. |
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