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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The fights are gettin' a bit too shallow here. And the Emerada's craft gettin' repaired in just 5 min! how faked is that!?! |
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| Emeraldas? I guess you're talking about the American mash-up "Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years". It's not surprise if things don't make sense when they're messily combining two different series. Much more difficult then their work on Robotech where they just strung three series on after the other...and they still managed to make something of a mess of that one, too. Will that make it difficult for me since I want to discuss the original version of episode 18? The chief engineer encounters his now-grown daughter to find that she's a Mazone soldier. She mocks him, saying that Mazone don't need fathers, which is meant literally in part; Mazone are born from plants, so the chief actually isn't her father in a biological sense. The chief has flashbacks to exaggeratedly happy scenes from her childhood, and her apparent abduction after his Mazone wife was killed (as depicted in episode 17), then exclaims "Don't tell me your childhood was an act!" She doesn't give a clear response, but the chief ends up back on the Arcadia asking Harlock for the chance to destroy the Mazone ship himself, and he does. I find it really hard to believe that the chief's daughter was putting on an act when she was a small child. If she was, why was she apparently being taken by force by the Mazone after her mother was killed? Why did she cry out to her father when she saw him at that time? If we're intended to actually believe that it was all lies, the episode does a bad job of convincing. Given that failure, I find the chief's insistence on killing his own daughter rather revolting. |
| Another very great yet sad episode especially that ending of course! Still one of the better arcs from the series still! Looking forward to see what's next. |
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| Dang chief has been though a lot of shit. First his captain kills his wife then the Mazone kidnaps his daughter and lastly his daughter said that Mazone does not need fathers and tries to shoot down the Arcadia so Chief decides to be the one to shoot her down. I feel bad for the guy. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| That was sad, going into the realm of real tragedy with attacking one's own family. I'm still hoping it'll turn out that this wasn't the real Midori. |
| This just doesn't make sense at all and it's just lame that the mazones keep being so one dimensional. |
| Maji is really going through a lot. I think it's becoming pretty clear now that the 42nd crewmember of the Arcadia is the ship's computer, who I'm guessing is Harlock's friend/Mayu's father in some form or fashion. Maybe he uploaded his soul/consciousness to the ship's computer? Maybe his body is kept in stasis inside the computer? Anyhow, will be interesting to see. |
| Beep boop |
| Maji's life just got somehow worse. After finding his daughter, she is fully indoctrinated into the Mazone way, and Maji ended up being the one to shoot her ship down. I had to hold back tears watching that. |
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| I'd like to argue that there never was a daughter and Maji was a victim of the same hypnotism that Daiba had succumbed to earlier with the bell was the trigger (most likely gleaned from all those consciousness scans). - it's clear that the wife never really lost her memory since she was part of the assassination group before being killed by Capt. Yamanaka, so the whole family life was just a cover (like all the other Mazone spies that Daiba & Co. eliminated in a previous episode). - from the Doctor and Yuki's explanation of Mazone biology as well as those creepy plant babies, it's apparently impossible for them cross-breed. Maji certainly would've noticed any body issues, the lack of pregnancy, and sudden appearance of a child, not to mention if there was one of those baby-factory plants around the house. There's also the change in skin color between the daughter in flashbacks and the current woman. Maybe due to the Mazone environment but I don't buy it. - the lack of response other than chuckles from the woman when Maji asks if her childhood was all just an act is highly suspect, if was an act then she could've just said so. If she doesn't remember because of supposed brainwashing, then she could've just said so as well. Her silence and laughter feel like she is mockingly saying, "Yeah, none of that actually happened." Plus, one of the images he recalls is them riding a white horse which, to me, is highly imaginative/fantastical (ie: the cliche romantic prince riding in on a white horse). - as for the kidnapping scene, I believe the Mazone were taking back some object (maybe the baby plant?) that Maji was hypnotized into believing was his daughter. Once again, the bell comes into play and his mind filled in the rest. |
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