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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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Totally unsourced hagiography about a non-notable minor Indian prince who was hanged after the rebellion of 1857. The article was created more than 18 months ago and has never had even a single source, and my attempts to find reliable sources for it have failed. Thomas.W talk 18:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Correction: It's much older than 18 months as it was created in 2006, but it didn't have any reliable sources even when created, only links to Yahoo-groups. The article has been embellished over the years, and received an even more promotional tone than it originally had, but no sources. Thomas.W talk 18:50, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - there's strong evidence that this prince existed, for example the petitions he made to the King and one of his letters turning up at auction. As an Indian ruler and someone who was executed after the Indian Rebellion, one would presume the likelihood that he was notable enough for Wikipedia. However, the penultimate section of the current article suggests he's been forgotten and unrecognised (which contradicts the remainder of the article). Being such a bloated, one-sided, unsourced essay, maybe it is an entirely original work and WP:BLOWITUP would be a solution. I've left a message at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. Sionk (talk) 22:05, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment He has cricket stadium named after him Nahar Singh Stadium, stadium is major stadium mentioned on ESPN Cricinfo website [1]. If a major stadium is named after him then he is certainly notable. And here is reliable source from official website of Faridabad district [2] mentioning about him. Also official website of Haryana Tourism [3] has mention about him. --Human3015 knock knock • 22:26, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- That only supports that he existed, which noone has doubted, but it doesn't support any of the claims in the article. Blowing it up and starting from scratch again would be the best solution, but the lack of reliable sources means that we'd only get a stub article, if even that. Thomas.W talk 22:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have just read lead and improved it, we can add tags to rest of the article. If any extra-ordinary claim, we can delete it. Otherwise we can keep some logical unsourced things in good faith. --Human3015 knock knock • 22:43, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- So article can become stub if we edit it, but it is not case of deletion, I think. His palace Nahar Singh Mahal is just 15km away from south Delhi and looks great in pics I found. So any visitor who is visiting that palace may search on net for getting primary info about Nahar Singh. Or those who visited Nahar Singh Stadium for watching any match can also search for his article. So this article is necessary. --Human3015 knock knock • 23:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have just read lead and improved it, we can add tags to rest of the article. If any extra-ordinary claim, we can delete it. Otherwise we can keep some logical unsourced things in good faith. --Human3015 knock knock • 22:43, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- That only supports that he existed, which noone has doubted, but it doesn't support any of the claims in the article. Blowing it up and starting from scratch again would be the best solution, but the lack of reliable sources means that we'd only get a stub article, if even that. Thomas.W talk 22:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: As per my above explanation and I also added some references to article, even though those sources are not much explanatory still they are enough to establish notability of Nahar Singh. --Human3015 knock knock • 23:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. References have now been added. The article needs down to be trimmed, though. Reads like a hagiography. utcursch | talk 01:02, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Ruler of a sovereign state. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. There is no doubt this article is notable but as @Utcursch: suggested, it should improved . — CutestPenguinHangout 15:39, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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