| the theme? the moral? the big idea? What did it mean? I remember watching an interview of Miyazaki san before I watched Mononoke Hime, and in the interview he said that he was suprised to find that kids understood the film better then adults. That a lot of adults didn't "get it" while children did. While I adored the film, I think I didn't "get it" neither. I wasn't able to get a clear view of what it really was about. I understood what happened by events, but I want to know what the whole story what trying to tell. Any ideas? |
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| the moral of the story was don't try to kill a god otherwise it'll wonder around destroying everything?....gods can't die they just become something else, tainted remember only you can prevent forest fires..i think...or is it only chuck norris can prevent forest fires i forget which one |
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| It's like deathnote. (though not even half the fanbase got it, and even to this day, people are screaming light is evil and L is good... pretty lame) anyways, it's about Perspective. There is no evil people/deeds or good people/deeds. It's how you look at the problem. Several egs are present in the series 1. Death of nogu? (the possessed boar we see at the start of the movie) 2. Eboshi's goals 3. Moro and San (the issue with the parents throwing her, and how moro decides to adopt her) 4. Jiko Bou's goals 5. Okkoto's goals and few more minor ones reflect this idea. To understand and appreciate this movie fully, i think you need extreme sensitivity. These types of movies are the movies that have high rewatch value. |
| ^ Eboshi killed the the forest in order to stop people from getting killed by the forest. San is not innocent. She killed countless people as well. For what? to prevent the forest. Just like how Eboshi is killing the forest in order to save the people. Through Ashitaka we get to see both sides. And you will see how he struggles to satisfy both sides. Idk why people keep writing, evil, bad, good, etc. When the whole point of the story is there is NO such thing. I thought mononoke hime did this pretty clearly. Evil, good, etc are subjective and changes with perspective. |
| You people are crazy. The moral is about man vs. nature. This is a common theme in a lot of Miyazaki's movies but film in particular stands out as being overtly environmentalist. Stupid hippie. |
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| I don't think this is an environmentalist movie. Yea it's about man and nature, but it's more about finding a compromise or balance between two extremes such as Iron Town and the forest spirits in this film. Both are shown to have good and bad sides and only Ashitaka acknowledges this, which is why he stays neutral and helps both. |
noir_lait said: Eboshi killed the the forest in order to stop people from getting killed by the forest. Forest defended itself when people have started mining for iron and cutting the trees. If they won't, all could be OK. The "good" side was that Tataraba settlers had better life, but every deed has consequences. Sort of the phenomenon of consumerism in embryo. noir_lait said: San is not innocent. She killed countless people as well. For what? to prevent the forest. Just like how Eboshi is killing the forest in order to save the people. San didn't kill anyone before the battle between boars and people. Even in the village she tried not to hurt somobedy except Eboshi to death. Where did you see "countless people"? To say exactly, there was no San-made dead bodies at all in this movie. ZERO. Only when all "soft" methods had been used, she joined the boars. "Every action has a reaction equal in magnitude and opposite in direction" (c) Newton. noir_lait said: Through Ashitaka we get to see both sides. And you will see how he struggles to satisfy both sides. IMO, it's about love (or kindness, if you wish). Ashitaka clearly said that there shouldn't be anger in a heart, that's all. Remeber this: "This is the curse of revenge and hatred! It destroys the flesh and leads to death! Not the result of more hatred and anger!" He fought not to satisfy, but to save and teach (OMG, I should be a priest :D ). noir_lait said: Idk why people keep writing, evil, bad, good, etc. When the whole point of the story is there is NO such thing. I thought mononoke hime did this pretty clearly. Saying that it's relative doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all. Your logic leads to some kind of sophism with no ratings and opinions about anything. Snorlaks said: Ashitaka was infected with swine flu and he btw, meet San. LOL :D |
hollowxxxx said: the theme? the moral? the big idea? What did it mean? I remember watching an interview of Miyazaki san before I watched Mononoke Hime, and in the interview he said that he was suprised to find that kids understood the film better then adults. That a lot of adults didn't "get it" while children did. While I adored the film, I think I didn't "get it" neither. I wasn't able to get a clear view of what it really was about. I understood what happened by events, but I want to know what the whole story what trying to tell. Any ideas? Its a good message to viewers saying. Give hate, and you will receive more hate. Hate and revenge is an evil chain. The more it is used, the more will become of it. Instead, try compromise like is shown by Ashitaka trying to convince Eboshi to live together with the forest instead. All all other hate, try thinking of something better. He thinks of the best of Good and both sides have their reason to hate and want revenge, but it doesn't create good, it creates more bad and despair and evil acts. He is showing his hate within himself and how he battles against it to not create more hate, even though he wanted so much commit hatish and evil acts for what Eboshi is doing or something else he got mad at in the movie. Instead he let them have their hate reflected. He shoed that you can go on without having to have revenge for your hate. Instead live on. he was shoot and ignored it to show it. Everyone was shocked how he saved both Eboshi and San, still got shot and forgave the woman who shot him. The message is clear and is something we all as humans should take in. And this exists in many popular movies, but many always jsut think it as "movie" but directors and producers often put in messages through their movies that we watched, to learn and they want us to act from it. |
| I watched it a long time ago... I think it was about messing with nature. The Iron Town tries to use technology to take over nature or something? I forgot |
| I thought it was definitely about man versus nature, at heart, to respect our environment and the things that live in it. Along with that, it's about the ambiguity of having to choose a 'side' - something I noticed several characters asking throughout the movie, "who's side are you on?", and how good and evil aren't black and white, and that it's possible to have more than one goal in mind. At the end, Ashitaka winds up saving the forest and promises to help rebuild Irontown - instead of siding with JUST the forest, or JUST Irontown, he finds a balance between helping both groups thrive side by side. |
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| It's basically about the pros and cons of industrialization and it allows the viewer to come to their own conclusion. |
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