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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Pretty much a recap episode but damn, Karen Bee is a boss. I remember this from Nisemonogatari. Damn, I miss her hairstyle as well too. Shinobu spotted too. I remember the first time when she talked. Boy I was surprised.. Great action though. Oh God Araragi-kun. |
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| ....Does this recap confirm what happened after the confrontation with Kaiki at the very end of episode 7? |
| I almost forgot how badly Araragi got beat up by Karen and Yozuru in Nisemonogatari lol |
| Nice recap. As expected from SHAFT. |
Grouchio said: ....Does this recap confirm what happened after the confrontation with Kaiki at the very end of episode 7? If you're referring to the possible sexual encounter between Koyomi and Hitagi... out of all the scenes they shortened/cut... they still kept that scene so I would say yes. |
Grouchio said: ....Does this recap confirm what happened after the confrontation with Kaiki at the very end of episode 7? That scene was supposed to be left like that, nothing more nothing less. You are free to imagine stuff happened after that though. |
| Karen Bee recap, huh? I rewatched Nise recently, so guess I'll skip that one. Akiyama said: http://www.monogatari-series.com/2ndseason/movie/oni_pv01.html Looks nice. |
| nisemonogatari recap hmm? :3 well I like nisemonogatari after all so not bad :3 Akiyama said: http://www.monogatari-series.com/2ndseason/movie/oni_pv01.html really really interesting :3 |
| Shinobu arc next week????? Srsly?? Majide?? Really??? |
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Grouchio said: ....Does this recap confirm what happened after the confrontation with Kaiki at the very end of episode 7? it was just a play of word. nothing happen between them. they might have fool around at that park abit but nothing happened, some LN readers confirmed to me. |
AiCon said: The Bluray version of episode 8 is really great! Honestly Nisemonogatari is great overall on Bluray, really enjoy it. I rewatched a few episodes of Karen Bee with the character commentary track on again, just awesome stuff, the Hitagi/Hanekawa banter is always great!They uncensored the bath scene with Shinobu and Araragi, but cut out the part where Tsukihi finds the two of them together and comes back with a knife. That was one of my favorite parts of Nisemonogatari. :( Seeing this recap makes me wonder... are they going to recap some of second season now or are the done with recaps? Could this mean 5 episodes for Oni and/or Koi? That would be nice. |
| Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. |
| So after every arc a recap episode, and for what reason? I think most of us have seen the previous seasons so these recaps are unnecessary, and it makes me wonder what Shaft is thinking be showing them again. |
| One of the best recaps i have seen. Enjoyed it while my mind was refreshed with happenings in Nisemonogatari. Seems like i had forgotten quite a bit lol. Shinobu Arc next?! shit's gonna be awesome :) |
| For sucks sake. A third recap episode? Are you fucking kidding me? A series in it's third season (yeah the title says second season but come on Nisemonogatari is the second season) does not need to recap the entire thing after each arc. You guys are all accepting this too easily. It's irritating as shit and completely unnecessary. |
DonPatch said: For sucks sake. A third recap episode? Are you fucking kidding me? A series in it's third season (yeah the title says second season but come on Nisemonogatari is the second season) does not need to recap the entire thing after each arc. You guys are all accepting this too easily. It's irritating as shit and completely unnecessary. For fuck sake. Stop whining. 1. Nisemonogatari is initially intended not to be published but it did anyway, so it is still considered as the first season of the series. 2. You should read the news about those recaps. Go figure. Too much whining does not change anything too. |
Aversa said: So after every arc a recap episode, and for what reason? I think most of us have seen the previous seasons so these recaps are unnecessary, and it makes me wonder what Shaft is thinking be showing them again. It's there to give the staff more time to polish the main arcs and to give them more time probably. Them being there or not doesn't change the number of episodes dedicated to each arc and they are there in place of Hanamonogatari, which won't air. Honestly stop complaining, 1 week is not gonna kill you and you are not forced to watch. So much entitlement for no reason. |
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Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. still waiting for kizumonogatari movie >_> in there koyomi pawns everyone as a full vampire :D |
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| Another recap episode. I wanted to know what happened with the ending of the Nadeko arc. |
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babymilo91 said: Another recap episode. I wanted to know what happened with the ending of the Nadeko arc. That will happen in Hitagi end arc which is after the next arc. |
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It is not unreasonable. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. Again, stop whining. If you don't like just avoid yourself from watching it. Mod edit: Quote of removed post edited out. Let's lower the temperature here folks. |
rodacOct 20, 2013 12:43 PM
CRadu said: Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. So, you just want another brainless shounen hero throwing punches left and right ? You know, Koyomi actually goes into a fight with a specific mindset and plan. What you suggest would be kinda anticlamatic pertaining the way the series is portrayed. But to each his own, I presume. To defend yourself in a fight doesn't equate to you being a brainless shounen hero. He has a specific mindset, yes. But getting beat up all the time just makes it seem like they're trying too hard to make him seem like Mr nice guy, He's half vampire, he should be more capable of defending himself. |
Madara31 said: CRadu said: Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. So, you just want another brainless shounen hero throwing punches left and right ? You know, Koyomi actually goes into a fight with a specific mindset and plan. What you suggest would be kinda anticlamatic pertaining the way the series is portrayed. But to each his own, I presume. To defend yourself in a fight doesn't equate to you being a brainless shounen hero. He has a specific mindset, yes. But getting beat up all the time just makes it seem like they're trying too hard to make him seem like Mr nice guy, He's half vampire, he should be more capable of defending himself. my view on it is, he's (immortal?) he can fight like this, i like the change, and like when he swallowed a sword, that's not exactly getting beaten up since he did get a scratch on meow girl |
CRadu said: Madara31 said: To defend yourself in a fight doesn't equate to you being a brainless shounen hero. He has a specific mindset, yes. But getting beat up all the time just makes it seem like they're trying too hard to make him seem like Mr nice guy, He's half vampire, he should be more capable of defending himself. He did defend himself when he fought against Karen, but she is his sister, what'd you expect ? Against Kagenui he wanted to make her understand something, not stir her up. Well Karen obviously had no qualms beating up her sibling, Lol. He's older, but family nonetheless. And even when he's trying to make someone understand something, or to prove a point, at least block the attacks, do something. I don't see the point of becoming a human punching bag just because you can. |
Nichibotsu-kaeru said: Madara31 said: CRadu said: Madara31 said: Just once I'd like to see Koyomi actually hit someone, instead of always getting completely dominated in fights. It got boring after Karen beat him to a pulp. So, you just want another brainless shounen hero throwing punches left and right ? You know, Koyomi actually goes into a fight with a specific mindset and plan. What you suggest would be kinda anticlamatic pertaining the way the series is portrayed. But to each his own, I presume. To defend yourself in a fight doesn't equate to you being a brainless shounen hero. He has a specific mindset, yes. But getting beat up all the time just makes it seem like they're trying too hard to make him seem like Mr nice guy, He's half vampire, he should be more capable of defending himself. my view on it is, he's (immortal?) he can fight like this, i like the change, and like when he swallowed a sword, that's not exactly getting beaten up since he did get a scratch on meow girl I'm not sure he's immortal, I think he just has great regenerative capabilities. I didn't mind it at first, but it just got tiresome after a while, that's it. |
Madara31 said: koyomi himself said he doesnt want to risk hurting them with his powers.It's not like he is in danger because of her attacks.CRadu said: Madara31 said: To defend yourself in a fight doesn't equate to you being a brainless shounen hero. He has a specific mindset, yes. But getting beat up all the time just makes it seem like they're trying too hard to make him seem like Mr nice guy, He's half vampire, he should be more capable of defending himself. He did defend himself when he fought against Karen, but she is his sister, what'd you expect ? Against Kagenui he wanted to make her understand something, not stir her up. Well Karen obviously had no qualms beating up her sibling, Lol. He's older, but family nonetheless. And even when he's trying to make someone understand something, or to prove a point, at least block the attacks, do something. I don't see the point of becoming a human punching bag just because you can. And he isnt immortal.If he was Black Hanekawa wouldnt be able to kill him. |
| @Madara Solving problems using violence will not result good outcome--this is Araragi's nature and mindset. Besides, he's weak, as normal commoners do. He is untrained, and not active. Besides having himself as a half vampire which has relatively good regeneration ability, he is just a normal being. Unless he is forced to do so (as the last resort), only then he will use violence--though he will probably die. This series is no generic shonen stuff, so stop expecting something that will never be there. |
yukaru00 said: @Madara Solving problems using violence will not result good outcome--this is Araragi's nature and mindset. Besides, he's weak, as normal commoners do. He is untrained, and not active. Besides having himself as a half vampire which has relatively good regeneration ability, he is just a normal being. Unless he is forced to do so (as the last resort), only then he will use violence--though he will probably die. This series is no generic shonen stuff, so stop expecting something that will never be there. Why do people keep thinking that if a MC can defend themselves, then they're automatically a generic shounen character? that's a very limited way of thinking. All I'm asking for is for him to stop playing the role of the human punching bag in every confrontation because it gets tiresome, and because it frequently happens, it ends up being predicable too. |
| I really forgot how beat up Koyomi got there. Hell his skeleton was starting to show O_O XD Fire sisters are <3 And Shinobu is even more <3<3 She's friggin hot in teenage form *A* |
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yukaru00 said: DonPatch said: Fuck you. If something is unreasonable I complain. It's a perfectly just reaction. It is not unreasonable. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. Again, stop whining. If you don't like just avoid yourself from watching it. It's not unreasonable? If this was the recent Hajime no Ippo Rising which is following on about 100 episodes and dates back to an anime that started in 2000, yeah, it wouldn't be that unreasonable with ONE recap episode. Ippo is too good to do that though. Monogatari S2 has about 25 episodes preceding it, and Bakemonogatari was the anime EVERYONE was watching back in as recent times as 2009. It's even recapping fucking Nisemonogatari and that Nekomonogatari OVA, both a lot more recent. If they did one recap episode, whatever, that's not too bad. This is the third. It IS unreasonable. It's fucking ridiculous. I agree with you that these recaps are being shown for a reason. To stretch the show out and make easy, dirty money. I will refrain from watching them, sure, but I will damn well bitch and whine as much as I please when a show I like keep doing this cheap shit. @ssjokg Naw, fuck that, I want my crack. |
DonPatch said: yukaru00 said: DonPatch said: Fuck you. If something is unreasonable I complain. It's a perfectly just reaction. It is not unreasonable. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. Again, stop whining. If you don't like just avoid yourself from watching it. It's not unreasonable? If this was the recent Hajime no Ippo Rising which is following on about 100 episodes and dates back to an anime that started in 2000, yeah, it wouldn't be that unreasonable with ONE recap episode. Ippo is too good to do that though. Monogatari S2 has about 25 episodes preceding it, and Bakemonogatari was the anime EVERYONE was watching back in as recent times as 2009. It's even recapping fucking Nisemonogatari and that Nekomonogatari OVA, both a lot more recent. If they did one recap episode, whatever, that's not too bad. This is the third. It IS unreasonable. It's fucking ridiculous. I agree with you that these recaps are being shown for a reason. To stretch the show out and make easy, dirty money. I will refrain from watching them, sure, but I will damn well bitch and whine as much as I please when I show I like keep doing this cheap shit. @ssjokg Naw, fuck that, I want my crack. Thank goodness Ippo didnt have a recap it would show how low it fell to turn into a generic shounen with no built up at all.Unless if ep 2 starts with a flashback of Ippo's training for the fight that started in ep1. What is ridiculous is you whining that a studio doesnt rush it's work.Like with SnK for example. We all know Shaft's problems.If you dont care because you want new eps every week it isnt our or Shaft's problem. You are like a kid whose chocolate bar was taken from him.A bar he never paid for and never will. |
DonPatch said: [ It's not unreasonable [......] So disgusting. Monogatari is too good for you. |
DonPatch said: yukaru00 said: DonPatch said: Fuck you. If something is unreasonable I complain. It's a perfectly just reaction. It is not unreasonable. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. Again, stop whining. If you don't like just avoid yourself from watching it. It's not unreasonable? If this was the recent Hajime no Ippo Rising which is following on about 100 episodes and dates back to an anime that started in 2000, yeah, it wouldn't be that unreasonable with ONE recap episode. Ippo is too good to do that though. Monogatari S2 has about 25 episodes preceding it, and Bakemonogatari was the anime EVERYONE was watching back in as recent times as 2009. It's even recapping fucking Nisemonogatari and that Nekomonogatari OVA, both a lot more recent. If they did one recap episode, whatever, that's not too bad. This is the third. It IS unreasonable. It's fucking ridiculous. I agree with you that these recaps are being shown for a reason. To stretch the show out and make easy, dirty money. I will refrain from watching them, sure, but I will damn well bitch and whine as much as I please when a show I like keep doing this cheap shit. @ssjokg Naw, fuck that, I want my crack. As much as other people accept that the recaps are done to lessen the work for SHAFT production team as they could not afford to produce a full 2 cours anime slot, there is still another reason behind it. Those recaps are initially the slots for Hanamonogatari episodes which were delayed to avoid big confusion to anime-only audiences. Putting those childish excuse of SHAFT aside, yeah, this is somewhat a last minute decision (to me) and the production team needed to go along with it as 2 cours anime slot must at least contains 24-26 episodes, or else there will be no Second Season series for us this year. Rules are rules. Japanese broadcasting rules sucks. |
yukaru00 said: DonPatch said: yukaru00 said: DonPatch said: Fuck you. If something is unreasonable I complain. It's a perfectly just reaction. It is not unreasonable. Those recaps are being shown for reasons. Again, stop whining. If you don't like just avoid yourself from watching it. It's not unreasonable? If this was the recent Hajime no Ippo Rising which is following on about 100 episodes and dates back to an anime that started in 2000, yeah, it wouldn't be that unreasonable with ONE recap episode. Ippo is too good to do that though. Monogatari S2 has about 25 episodes preceding it, and Bakemonogatari was the anime EVERYONE was watching back in as recent times as 2009. It's even recapping fucking Nisemonogatari and that Nekomonogatari OVA, both a lot more recent. If they did one recap episode, whatever, that's not too bad. This is the third. It IS unreasonable. It's fucking ridiculous. I agree with you that these recaps are being shown for a reason. To stretch the show out and make easy, dirty money. I will refrain from watching them, sure, but I will damn well bitch and whine as much as I please when a show I like keep doing this cheap shit. @ssjokg Naw, fuck that, I want my crack. As much as other people accept that the recaps are done to lessen the work for SHAFT production team as they could not afford to produce a full 2 cours anime slot, there is still another reason behind it. Those recaps are initially the slots for Hanamonogatari episodes which were delayed to avoid big confusion to anime-only audiences. Putting those childish excuse of SHAFT aside, yeah, this is somewhat a last minute decision (to me) and the production team needed to go along with it as 2 cours anime slot must at least contains 24-26 episodes, or else there will be no Second Season series for us this year. Rules are rules. Japanese broadcasting rules sucks. I actually did not know about that. Those rules are absolutely retarded, but at least that makes for slightly more of an excuse. @ssjokg Well, this is totally off-topic, but Ippo has absolutely not done that. That fight was hype even without build up, but it really served as just an introduction to the series, an appetizer. It was done well and as a series start it worked perfect to show where Ippo is now. Ippo is still great, episode 3 is all about build up. Dont judge an entire thing from what is essentially the prologue, fool. Three recaps is ridiculous. Let me fix your image. I'm like a kid who heard all these great ads about a new video game coming out, but when I went to buy it it had the disc of an old game in the series in it, and the disc was cracked. @Arararraragi-kun It's disgusting to complain about something stupid? Yeah, no, fuck off. |
| Yet the first fight had no built up whatsoever.You would think that Ippo's first fight against a Dempsy Roll challenger would have some amazing built up....but no. 1.You are exaggerating besides it is more like you got a bonus disc with the previous seasons along with the new "game" ,2. You didnt buy the "game" nor were you planning to and 3.You insulting everyone that proves you wrong doesnt make your complaints more reasonable. Take a sit back ,stop watching it,I dont give a shit what you will do but one thing is for sure, not mater how much you whine like a little kid the recaps are there and HOPEFULLY just to annoy you there will be more. |
ssjokgOct 20, 2013 12:44 PM
| Mod Edit: I've removed some of the posts and quotes with the highest flame content. Please watch the tone of your posts. You know recap episodes are rarely popular no matter how good they are, or what the reasons are for their production. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| @ssjokg 1. I'm really not, most shows wouldn't even have one recap after 25ish episodes, let alone fucking three. It's unnecessary. 2. How the shit do you know what I buy and not buy? Are you some type of stalker? 3. I admit I might have been somewhat unfair to yukaru00, but chill down. Don't take this too personal. I'm mostly insulting SHAFT here. The reasoning in my third post still stands. Nobody needs three recaps of something like Monogatari. There's a reason why sub groups don't even bother with this shit. I do whine, but I consider it justified. What "people" proved me wrong, beside yukaru00 having a point about the Japanese TV rules? You and that other guy have just been bitching. I came to this series expecting new stuff, and they constantly show useless recaps. Yeah, the recaps are there, and complaining about something retarded isn't childish. If someone throws a bucket of paint in your face you SHOULD complain. Granted, I have more of a understanding now that I know about the shitty rules of 24 - 26 eps being necessary, but it's still an absurd situation. About Ippo, apparently they removed some manga stuff from the first fight. That sucks, but it wasn't essential stuff. Episode 3 has been all build up and the show is still as great as ever. |
| Shm recap. :/ I can't believe they cut out Kanbaru's arc because of this. |
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Ramkec said: Shm recap. :/ I can't believe they cut out Kanbaru's arc because of this. You'd rather being spoiled and confused? Think again. |
DonPatch said: 1.For them it is necessary deal with it.@ssjokg 1. I'm really not, most shows wouldn't even have one recap after 25ish episodes, let alone fucking three. It's unnecessary. 2. How the shit do you know what I buy and not buy? Are you some type of stalker? 3. I admit I might have been somewhat unfair to yukaru00, but chill down. Don't take this too personal. I'm mostly insulting SHAFT here. The reasoning in my third post still stands. Nobody needs three recaps of something like Monogatari. There's a reason why sub groups don't even bother with this shit. I do whine, but I consider it justified. What "people" proved me wrong, beside yukaru00 having a point about the Japanese TV rules? You and that other guy have just been bitching. I came to this series expecting new stuff, and they constantly show useless recaps. Yeah, the recaps are there, and complaining about something retarded isn't childish. If someone throws a bucket of paint in your face you SHOULD complain. Granted, I have more of a understanding now that I know about the shitty rules of 24 - 26 eps being necessary, but it's still an absurd situation. 2.You wouldnt buy it.You are the type of person that whines for every little thing.If it wasnt the recaps,that are nothing new to the series(Bake ep 5,5 ,I guess you missed that) it would be something else. 3.Shaft has its reasons and yes there is a need.What sub groups do is not of our concern nor of Shaft's and btw subs do exist. No it isnt justified because in the end of the day you will get the same number of new eps with or without recaps and in better quality in this and the next season.You ignoring what I say and focusing only to the"bitching"(oh the irony)is your problem. Oh but it is childish.Bitching about a new ep being a week late is childish.. It's absurd that you use such analogies and that keep bitching after "having more of a understanding". |
ssjokg said: DonPatch said: 1.For them it is necessary deal with it.@ssjokg 1. I'm really not, most shows wouldn't even have one recap after 25ish episodes, let alone fucking three. It's unnecessary. 2. How the shit do you know what I buy and not buy? Are you some type of stalker? 3. I admit I might have been somewhat unfair to yukaru00, but chill down. Don't take this too personal. I'm mostly insulting SHAFT here. The reasoning in my third post still stands. Nobody needs three recaps of something like Monogatari. There's a reason why sub groups don't even bother with this shit. I do whine, but I consider it justified. What "people" proved me wrong, beside yukaru00 having a point about the Japanese TV rules? You and that other guy have just been bitching. I came to this series expecting new stuff, and they constantly show useless recaps. Yeah, the recaps are there, and complaining about something retarded isn't childish. If someone throws a bucket of paint in your face you SHOULD complain. Granted, I have more of a understanding now that I know about the shitty rules of 24 - 26 eps being necessary, but it's still an absurd situation. 2.You wouldnt buy it.You are the type of person that whines for every little thing.If it wasnt the recaps,that are nothing new to the series(Bake ep 5,5 ,I guess you missed that) it would be something else. 3.Shaft has its reasons and yes there is a need.What sub groups do is not of our concern nor of Shaft's and btw subs do exist. No it isnt justified because in the end of the day you will get the same number of new eps with or without recaps and in better quality in this and the next season.You ignoring what I say and focusing only to the"bitching"(oh the irony)is your problem. Oh but it is childish.Bitching about a new ep being a week late is childish.. It's absurd that you use such analogies and that keep bitching after "having more of a understanding". 1. Sure, if this is the only way to get all the arcs, I can accept it. I do want to remind you that I didn't know about the need for 24 - 26 eps before it was brought up. Somehow I imagine you were in the same boat since you didn't bring it up first. 2. Thank you, Mr professional personality identifier. You must have some type of master degree in this field to be able to identify what I will and won't buy from these couple of rushed forum posts. I assume you already know what I like to eat for breakfast from my post count, huh, professor? Never saw Bake 5,5 since I picked that show up after it finished. 3. We both bitch. The only difference I see is that I bitched about something completely idiotic. It might not be SHAFTs faulth, it's rather Japanese TV rules being at fault. Then again, Psycho-Pass was 22 episodes, so I don't know. I bitch about these episodes needing to exist, not ep 17 being late. Being hyped for new Monogatari and constantly being let-down because of some absurd rule is reason to complain. |
| 1.I dint know about the rule but I do know about Shaft having deadline problems. 2.Not my or Shaft's problem. 3.I bitch about something idiotic too.So let me get this straight.You would prefer something entirely unrelated to monogatari to air in place of the recap?YEah lets please one but make thousand others bitch..sounds great. DonPatch said: I bitch about these episodes needing to exist, not ep 17 being late. Being hyped for new Monogatari and constantly being let-down because of some absurd rule is reason to complain. This is so contradictory. Make a phone call to the tv station and tell them that you cant pirate the new ep because it is a recap.I am sure they will understand the complaint. The tv station isnt obligated to change its schedule because a studio changed its plans at the last minute or because a "fan" is throwing a tantrum. |
ssjokgOct 20, 2013 1:54 PM
| Just stop it guys. Really. |
yukaru00 said: Just stop it guys. Really. ^this ------------- to be honest I got a bit confused with the recap because I was expecting the final ep with Nadeko but it wasn't that bad I didn't watched bake and Nise (yet) so I'm thankful for this, it was a nice ep xD and yey for Shinobu next week :3 |
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