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| this ep is the peak of bad directing in this anime. give a 5 atm |
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papsoshea said: Something that I don't get, is that people are saying this was the worst episode. Are we all forgetting that episodes 7 and 8 exist?katsucats said: Raphtalia is mentally 10. Is the entire party mentally 12? Naofumi is a major hypocrite in this episode, and could be even more so in a future event - it's contradictory to what he told Raphtalia here. That's pretty much every episode, but this one was special. I'm not saying that this week's episode was some golden globe winner in terms of production/entertainment, but in my opinion it wasn't as bad as the previously mentioned episodes of 7 and 8. |
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| To be honest... I thought it would be worse. I mean, yes, Raph backstory was your typical traumatic past for victimization purposes as I said it would be, but it wasn't so over the top and was handled pretty well actually, just the necessary scenes in the correct moments (Rifana's body part was completely out of place imo, not the scene by itself, just the shot to her body). Even so it was so obviously emotional manipulative that I couldn't feel anything. I fail to see the "heartbreaking" part here. The real problem is other, though. As others have pointed out, the "I won't kill you because I'm not like you" trope is stupid, not because is an overused cliche, but in this context it goes against all sense, killing a slaver and sadistic man won't make you a sadistic too. Not only that, but Raph was about to kill him until Naofumi said that reply (hypocritical coming from him) and then she just remembered she is supposed to be "pure" and stopped. Honestly that would have been a good oportunity to have an interesting development for Raphtalia (to see how she handles with her actions), but no, writers just decided to go for the cliche route for the sake of keeping their waifu bait as "pure and innocent" (plain and with barely a personality) as weebs want her. And the rest of the chapter was... pretty much the same as previous chapters: questionable writing, forced and contrived situations, one dimensional cartoonishly evil guys, bad CG and free sucks to almighty Shield Hero (really, they are expert in making everyone and everything revolves around Naofumi dick). But again, it could be worse, and at least we didn't get the "RApHaLiA bEsT wAiFu Of ThE yEaR!!!" weebs horde... yet. |
Rhapsody-Apr 19, 2019 2:13 PM
| Overall decent episode but holy shit kill someone already. Don't want any of that "I don't want to be like them". |
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Rhapsody- said: The real problem is other, though. As others have pointed out, the "I won't kill you because I'm not like you" trope is stupid, not because is an overused cliche, but in this context it goes against all sense, killing a slaver and sadistic man won't make you a sadistic too. Not only that, but Raph was about to kill him until Naofumi said that reply (hypocritical coming from him) and then she just remembered she is supposed to be "pure" and stopped. Honestly that would have been a good oportunity to have an interesting development for Raphtalia (to see how she handles with her actions), but no, writers just decided to go for the cliche route for the sake to keep their waifu bait as "pure and innocent" (plain and with barely a personality) as weebs want her. Not to mention that in Ep 10, he mocked someone else for using a cliche: Itsuki saying "With great power comes great responsibility". It's frustrating that this inconsistency could've been easily avoided since the director simply didn't have to change the scene in the LN/manga. |
| The feels :( Poor Raphalia... I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that scumbag alive after falling from the building. Unbelievable! Raphtalia should had stabbed him with her sword (not the magic one she used) when she got the chance. Now's too late... New mission: Defeat the T-Rex. |
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| Why do we always try to take the high road instead of giving proper punishment (death) to characters that have done so many atrocities. Naofumi talking Raphtalia out of killing him was a huge disappointment and doesn't seem to fit how he himself acts at all. Can you also explain to me how Idol falls what seems to be three or more stories and all he has is blood dripping from his head from what I assume is the initial glass breaking when he fell through the window? I will say I did enjoy the use of the Swedish song used for the emotional scene. |
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How to ruin an episode but saving money on a T-Rex... must be a good milk they squeezed outta there. |
| I'm too tired to write something about this episode at this point. Let me speak through this emoji: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ |
papsoshea said: lol well...katsucats said: Raphtalia is mentally 10. Is the entire party mentally 12? Naofumi is a major hypocrite in this episode, and could be even more so in a future event - it's contradictory to what he told Raphtalia here. Naofumi shouldn't have been mentally 12, and certainly not Melty (actually, how old is she?) and the other lord guy, who were just hanging around as if it's another day in the park. The only reasonable reaction was, "What the fuck are you talking about?" And then Melty was all surprised when she entered the underground dungeon, as if she just spaced out during this whole exchange with Idol. Now Raphtalia being 10 has other disturbing implications, besides the fact that she's a slave, and the main love interest in Naofumi's pedophile harem. Not sure if 10 year olds act like Raphtalia in real life since I haven't talked to any in like 20 years, but just imagine if Raphtalia actually had a 10 year old's body, and how the sequence of events played out. |
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Demyx_IX said: Something that I don't get, is that people are saying this was the worst episode. Are we all forgetting that episodes 7 and 8 exist? I'm not saying that this week's episode was some golden globe winner in terms of production/entertainment, but in my opinion it wasn't as bad as the previously mentioned episodes of 7 and 8. I think this episode isn't even close to being as bad as Ep 7 and 8. The two episodes you mentioned have more glaring flaws. This episode was mostly good outside of the botched scene as a result of the director trying to fix what wasn't broken, in my opinion. |
Demyx_IX said: Something that I don't get, is that people are saying this was the worst episode. Are we all forgetting that episodes 7 and 8 exist? I'm not saying that this week's episode was some golden globe winner in terms of production/entertainment, but in my opinion it wasn't as bad as the previously mentioned episodes of 7 and 8. This is worse in my opinion. Episodes 7 and 8 were mostly just goofy, this episode made far worse infractions. |
| Oh, boy. I absolutely hate it when I have to do this. I see so many people are mad at this episode because of all the changes that were made especially with Raphtalia on the subject of her not actually killing Idol herself. Personally I'm not really bothered by the changes, in fact I actually liked them. Now before you guys start calling me an idiot let me start off by a SERIOUS question. Have any of you ever tried to kill someone before? No, seriously. Have any of you ever killed someone before? Taking another life, no matter how much they deserve it, isn't as easy as it looks. Ask any soldier, especially ones who served in WW2, Korea, or Vietnam and they will tell you that it stills affects them to this day. You people say that Raphtalia wouldn't be effected by it if she killed Idol. Well, no, it wouldn't... at least not immediately. However, if she did kill him in cold blood it would slowly start to affect and change her. Once she starts killing, who's to say she won't keep killing until she ends up becoming a monster like Idol? I mean, look at Anakin Skywalker and the path he went down the moment his mother died after being tortured for so long by the Sand People. Every life you take further desensitizes your respect for life not matter how much you want to justify it. It's one thing to kill in self-defense(which is kind of what happened here) but it's another thing to kill someone in cold blood especially if that person is unarmed and no longer a threat. And here's another thing, if Raphtalia had killed Idol in front of many witnesses it would have caused even more problems for both Naofumi and his party and for the Demi-Humans because the Kingdom would used this event as another excuse to destroy the Shield Hero, massacre all of the Demi-Humans, prevent Melty from ever reaching her mother, and Idol would have been made into a martyr. Did Idol deserve to die? Definitely, but it didn't have to come from Raphtalia's hand. |
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| A true solid emotional episode for Raphtalia! bwahahaha Idol got squashed by that T-Rex monstah! I hope that monstah has a lot of exp reward! lolz! 5/5. |
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| Raphtalia's past and backstory were a bit emotional, too bad for her friend! That bastard being alive was a shocker, wonder who resurrected him? Anyways things will be interesting with that giant shield monster, I sense a new power up for Naofumi! |
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| Oh that Raphtalia backstory, but wtf that fat noble man is still alive and was able to release the monster that the past heroes locked up.........?????? |
Aniteku said: On the other side it dint matter if she killed him or not crits and haters would just find something else to hate on Man, do you really think anyone with minimal criticism is a hater? It is so hard to accept people may not like something in this chapter even when some of them are giving arguments about their claims without actually disliking the serie? Because even fans and LN readers are complaining about the same, in your eyes are they haters too? Devaluing opinions just because they are not the same as yours. At the end you're not so different from the people you are criticizing. |
DirectorK said: No, but Raphtalia has. And she's killed countless animals in the wild just to gain some exp. And in the real world, people don't just "repent" because someone roughed them up a bit. The most likely thing that will happen if Idol was let go and survived is that he would get revenge. He would probably start by capturing a bunch of demi-humans, maybe not just 1 town, but 5. Then slowly torture them to death to satisfy his anger. He would probably rape a few cat girls, who knows. Then you, Naofumi, and Raphtalia will smile and love the fact that cat girls have been raped, I'm sure, because you would have knowingly let off a sadistic murderer/racist on some unrealistic ideal of pacifism. From that point on, anything Idol does is Raphtalia's direct responsibility. It's like a manager being responsible for the workers under him.Now before you guys start calling me an idiot let me start off by a SERIOUS question. Have any of you ever tried to kill someone before? No, seriously. Have any of you ever killed someone before? Taking another life, no matter how much they deserve it, isn't as easy as it looks. Ask any soldier, especially ones who served in WW2, Korea, or Vietnam and they will tell you that it stills affects them to this day. So I'm not going to call you an idiot or anything, but you must really hate Raphtalia not to hold her up to the standard of a decent human being. DirectorK said: Kill thousands of animals and monsters and don't bat an eye, but kill one shitty murderer, and you start going down a slippery slope. If that affects her, then she has the weakest character, because she'd rather be directly responsible for the death of countless demi-humans, as long as she doesn't have to dirty her own hands. Then again, apparently she's 10, so if she can't take that responsibility, then Naofumi should have, as the guardian of the family.You people say that Raphtalia wouldn't be effected by it if she killed Idol. Well, no, it wouldn't... at least not immediately. However, if she did kill him in cold blood it would slowly start to affect and change her. Once she starts killing, who's to say she won't keep killing until she ends up becoming a monster like Idol? I mean, look at Anakin Skywalker and the path he went down the moment his mother died after being tortured for so long by the Sand People. Every life you take further desensitizes your respect for life not matter how much you want to justify it. It's one thing to kill in self-defense(which is kind of what happened here) but it's another thing to kill someone in cold blood especially if that person is unarmed and no longer a threat. DirectorK said: That's a funny one. She would have killed Idol in front of exactly 4 people: Naofumi, Melty, the bird, and the other lord ally. I'm sure if the evil murderer villain was alive, he would not massacre any demi-humans. He would only massacre demi-humans if he was dead.And here's another thing, if Raphtalia had killed Idol in front of many witnesses it would have caused even more problems for both Naofumi and his party and for the Demi-Humans because the Kingdom would used this event as another excuse to destroy the Shield Hero, massacre all of the Demi-Humans, prevent Melty from ever reaching her mother, and Idol would have been made into a martyr. DirectorK said: Then it would have come from Naofumi's hand, or Melty's, or the other lord's. All 3 of them have just motivation of kill him. Naofumi because his child has been harmed and she lacks the moral character to take responsibility. Melty because Idol has ruined the name of her kingdom. The other lord because he was beat up and tortured even though they're of similar rank. But the most offensive thing about this is that all 3 of them just sat there and watched passively, and Naofumi even actively convinced Raphtalia to let him go.Did Idol deserve to die? Definitely, but it didn't have to come from Raphtalia's hand. Unlike in the real world, Idol isn't going to be put to trial and imprisoned. He would have been let go, scot-free. Imagine if all the murderers, rapists, mass shooters were let go scot-free, because we don't want any police to be affected and start changing. Who's to say policemen won't become like Anakin Skywalker? What do you imagine the rapists and mass shooters would do? Turn a new leaf and start over, become an upstanding citizen overnight? Or might some or most go kill and rape another person? And you'd think that the kind of society that lets that happen is a just one and you'd rate it 10/10! I mean like I'm not going to call you an idiot, but I'm glad you're on MAL and not the President. |
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katsucats said: DirectorK said: No, but Raphtalia has. And she's killed countless animals in the wild just to gain some exp. And in the real world, people don't just "repent" because someone roughed them up a bit. The most likely thing that will happen if Idol was let go and survived is that he would get revenge. He would probably start by capturing a bunch of demi-humans, maybe not just 1 town, but 5. Then slowly torture them to death to satisfy his anger. He would probably rape a few cat girls, who knows. Then you, Naofumi, and Raphtalia will smile and love the fact that cat girls have been raped, I'm sure, because you would have knowingly let off a sadistic murderer/racist on some unrealistic ideal of pacifism. From that point on, anything Idol does is Raphtalia's direct responsibility. It's like a manager being responsible for the workers under him.Now before you guys start calling me an idiot let me start off by a SERIOUS question. Have any of you ever tried to kill someone before? No, seriously. Have any of you ever killed someone before? Taking another life, no matter how much they deserve it, isn't as easy as it looks. Ask any soldier, especially ones who served in WW2, Korea, or Vietnam and they will tell you that it stills affects them to this day. So I'm not going to call you an idiot or anything, but you must really hate Raphtalia not to hold her up to the standard of a decent human being. DirectorK said: Kill thousands of animals and monsters and don't bat an eye, but kill one shitty murderer, and you start going down a slippery slope. If that affects her, then she has the weakest character, because she'd rather be directly responsible for the death of countless demi-humans, as long as she doesn't have to dirty her own hands. Then again, apparently she's 10, so if she can't take that responsibility, then Naofumi should have, as the guardian of the family.You people say that Raphtalia wouldn't be effected by it if she killed Idol. Well, no, it wouldn't... at least not immediately. However, if she did kill him in cold blood it would slowly start to affect and change her. Once she starts killing, who's to say she won't keep killing until she ends up becoming a monster like Idol? I mean, look at Anakin Skywalker and the path he went down the moment his mother died after being tortured for so long by the Sand People. Every life you take further desensitizes your respect for life not matter how much you want to justify it. It's one thing to kill in self-defense(which is kind of what happened here) but it's another thing to kill someone in cold blood especially if that person is unarmed and no longer a threat. DirectorK said: That's a funny one. She would have killed Idol in front of exactly 4 people: Naofumi, Melty, the bird, and the other lord ally. I'm sure if the evil murderer villain was alive, he would not massacre any demi-humans. He would only massacre demi-humans if he was dead.And here's another thing, if Raphtalia had killed Idol in front of many witnesses it would have caused even more problems for both Naofumi and his party and for the Demi-Humans because the Kingdom would used this event as another excuse to destroy the Shield Hero, massacre all of the Demi-Humans, prevent Melty from ever reaching her mother, and Idol would have been made into a martyr. DirectorK said: Then it would have come from Naofumi's hand, or Melty's, or the other lord's. All 3 of them have just motivation of kill him. Naofumi because his child has been harmed and she lacks the moral character to take responsibility. Melty because Idol has ruined the name of her kingdom. The other lord because he was beat up and tortured even though they're of similar rank. But the most offensive thing about this is that all 3 of them just sat there and watched passively, and Naofumi even actively convinced Raphtalia to let him go.Did Idol deserve to die? Definitely, but it didn't have to come from Raphtalia's hand. Unlike in the real world, Idol isn't going to be put to trial and imprisoned. He would have been let go, scot-free. Imagine if all the murderers, rapists, mass shooters were let go scot-free, because we don't want any police to be affected and start changing. Who's to say policemen won't become like Anakin Skywalker? What do you imagine the rapists and mass shooters would do? Turn a new leaf and start over, become an upstanding citizen overnight? Or might some or most go kill and rape another person? And you'd think that the kind of society that lets that happen is a just one and you'd rate it 10/10! I mean like I'm not going to call you an idiot, but I'm glad you're on MAL and not the President. Killing an animal isn't the same as killing an human being. An animal only knows how to survive which is why they will attack anyone they think is a threat. A human being has the ability to think and to speak. They can make decisions that can have consequences. Don't try to confuse two completely different things into one. Also, if Idol survived that encounter the last thing he's going to do is seek revenge by massacring other demi-humans because now that Melty and her noble friend knows his secret he would either have to keep his mouth shut and go into hiding or go after them to shut them up. Once word got out about his evil deeds it would give Melty's mother the perfect excuse to invade the Kingdom. It was only fortunate that he killed by the T-Rex before he could do anything. You could say the hand of God played a role in that. Idol was definitely evil but he wasn't stupid. Seeking revenge would only draw attention to himself. And no, I actually love Raphtalia because she's simply a good-hearted person who hasn't given in to temptation. And what the hell is me not being the "President" suppose to mean? Are you trying to pick a fight or something? |
| "You talk too much. Think too much." "I don't care how justified you think your reasons are. I won't tolerate liars or thieves." "If you're not going to be nice to me, don't expect me to be nice to you." "I'm a soldier, not a superhero. Don't ever think of me as one." "The world doesn't revolve around you. Get that through your thick skull." "People who live by their emotions go nowhere in their lives. They only find misery. "If you don't like the way your life is than do something about it instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself." "You want something go get it. Period." |
| I haven't cried like this in a while. This show has a good spot in my heart now. |
SSL443 said: This is worse in my opinion. Episodes 7 and 8 were mostly just goofy, this episode made far worse infractions. The second half of Ep. 7 hardly contributed to the story which would've been better suited for an OVA. Ep. 8's execution of the zombie dragon fight was very meh in comparison to how it was handled in the manga (e.g. Filo getting distracted vs. getting shocked by the slave seal; the rage shield design was better in the manga; the dragon's generic design vs. its goopy appearance in the manga; the manga doing a better job depicting the direness of the situation and Naofumi's struggle at controlling the rage shield's power, etc.). |
SSL443 said: Demyx_IX said: Something that I don't get, is that people are saying this was the worst episode. Are we all forgetting that episodes 7 and 8 exist? I'm not saying that this week's episode was some golden globe winner in terms of production/entertainment, but in my opinion it wasn't as bad as the previously mentioned episodes of 7 and 8. This is worse in my opinion. Episodes 7 and 8 were mostly just goofy, this episode made far worse infractions. I dunno, I feel like the changes from the source material that were covered in 7 and 8 were just as egregious as the changes made in this episode. Having said that, this episode and the other two are easily in my top 3 worst episodes for the series, hopefully for the rest of the show. But given how things have gone, I'm sure at least one or two more will vie for that top spot. VeryLTTP said: SSL443 said: This is worse in my opinion. Episodes 7 and 8 were mostly just goofy, this episode made far worse infractions. The second half of Ep. 7 hardly contributed to the story which would've been better suited for an OVA. Ep. 8's execution of the zombie dragon fight was very meh in comparison to how it was handled in the manga (e.g. Filo getting distracted vs. getting shocked by the slave seal; the rage shield design was better in the manga; the dragon's generic design vs. its goopy appearance in the manga; the manga doing a better job depicting the direness of the situation and Naofumi's struggle at controlling the rage shield's power, etc.). Pretty much sums up my sentiment on the matter. |
Demyx_IXApr 19, 2019 9:48 PM
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Demyx_IX said: I dunno, I feel like the changes from the source material that were covered in 7 and 8 were just as egregious as the changes made in this episode. Having said that, this episode and the other two are easily in my top 3 worst episodes for the series, hopefully for the rest of the show. But given how things have gone, I'm sure at least one or two more will vie for that top spot. Had this episode not changed Raphtalia's confrontation with Idol, would it not be among your 3 worst episodes? For me, that was the only change I had problems with. I was fine with the anime keeping Rifana's status up in the air till the end. |
DirectorK said: Yeah, because Melty, who's on the run and checkpoints are being set out for her, is definitely the one in power, and she'll definitely convince her mother to take over the kingdom, after sitting aside idly while Idol whipped her friend, and pretended nothing happened. Idol isn't stupid, maybe (he seems pretty stupid to me). But if I look at it your way, the whole cast is stupid.katsucats said: No, but Raphtalia has. And she's killed countless animals in the wild just to gain some exp. And in the real world, people don't just "repent" because someone roughed them up a bit. The most likely thing that will happen if Idol was let go and survived is that he would get revenge. He would probably start by capturing a bunch of demi-humans, maybe not just 1 town, but 5. Then slowly torture them to death to satisfy his anger. He would probably rape a few cat girls, who knows. Then you, Naofumi, and Raphtalia will smile and love the fact that cat girls have been raped, I'm sure, because you would have knowingly let off a sadistic murderer/racist on some unrealistic ideal of pacifism. From that point on, anything Idol does is Raphtalia's direct responsibility. It's like a manager being responsible for the workers under him. So I'm not going to call you an idiot or anything, but you must really hate Raphtalia not to hold her up to the standard of a decent human being. Kill thousands of animals and monsters and don't bat an eye, but kill one shitty murderer, and you start going down a slippery slope. If that affects her, then she has the weakest character, because she'd rather be directly responsible for the death of countless demi-humans, as long as she doesn't have to dirty her own hands. Then again, apparently she's 10, so if she can't take that responsibility, then Naofumi should have, as the guardian of the family. That's a funny one. She would have killed Idol in front of exactly 4 people: Naofumi, Melty, the bird, and the other lord ally. I'm sure if the evil murderer villain was alive, he would not massacre any demi-humans. He would only massacre demi-humans if he was dead. Then it would have come from Naofumi's hand, or Melty's, or the other lord's. All 3 of them have just motivation of kill him. Naofumi because his child has been harmed and she lacks the moral character to take responsibility. Melty because Idol has ruined the name of her kingdom. The other lord because he was beat up and tortured even though they're of similar rank. But the most offensive thing about this is that all 3 of them just sat there and watched passively, and Naofumi even actively convinced Raphtalia to let him go. Unlike in the real world, Idol isn't going to be put to trial and imprisoned. He would have been let go, scot-free. Imagine if all the murderers, rapists, mass shooters were let go scot-free, because we don't want any police to be affected and start changing. Who's to say policemen won't become like Anakin Skywalker? What do you imagine the rapists and mass shooters would do? Turn a new leaf and start over, become an upstanding citizen overnight? Or might some or most go kill and rape another person? And you'd think that the kind of society that lets that happen is a just one and you'd rate it 10/10! I mean like I'm not going to call you an idiot, but I'm glad you're on MAL and not the President. Killing an animal isn't the same as killing an human being. An animal only knows how to survive which is why they will attack anyone they think is a threat. A human being has the ability to think and to speak. They can make decisions that can have consequences. Don't try to confuse two completely different things into one. Also, if Idol survived that encounter the last thing he's going to do is seek revenge by massacring other demi-humans because now that Melty and her noble friend knows his secret he would either have to keep his mouth shut and go into hiding or go after them to shut them up. Once word got out about his evil deeds it would give Melty's mother the perfect excuse to invade the Kingdom. It was only fortunate that he killed by the T-Rex before he could do anything. You could say the hand of God played a role in that. Idol was definitely evil but he wasn't stupid. Seeking revenge would only draw attention to himself. And no, I actually love Raphtalia because she's simply a good-hearted person who hasn't given in to temptation. And what the hell is me not being the "President" suppose to mean? Are you trying to pick a fight or something? |
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katsucats said: Yeah, because Melty, who's on the run and checkpoints are being set out for her, is definitely the one in power, and she'll definitely convince her mother to take over the kingdom, after sitting aside idly while Idol whipped her friend, and pretended nothing happened. Idol isn't stupid, maybe (he seems pretty stupid to me). But if I look at it your way, the whole cast is stupid. Oh, I see. You basically hate this anime because it's not written accordingly to your standards, whatever that's suppose to be. |
DirectorKApr 19, 2019 11:19 PM
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jrShark said: Janethan23 said: The zombie dragon looked cooler than the t-rex. Agree. The zombie dragon looks a lot more threatening and powerful too. But I'm interested to see what kind of power the dinosaur holds that the past heroes had to seal it instead of killing it. I guessing it's more like the magical type with maxed out resistances to go with its highly developed brain utilizing psychic attacks. That's a hard boss to beat for heroes who uses physical attacks. |
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VeryLTTP said: Demyx_IX said: I dunno, I feel like the changes from the source material that were covered in 7 and 8 were just as egregious as the changes made in this episode. Having said that, this episode and the other two are easily in my top 3 worst episodes for the series, hopefully for the rest of the show. But given how things have gone, I'm sure at least one or two more will vie for that top spot. Had this episode not changed Raphtalia's confrontation with Idol, would it not be among your 3 worst episodes? For me, that was the only change I had problems with. I was fine with the anime keeping Rifana's status up in the air till the end. I think it would be only in my top 5 if they hadn't changed things up, episode 5 would probably have kept it's spot in the top 3. |
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CadenGallic said: It's not that they didn't push in the knife, it's the reasoning/justification of why they chose not to.You've gotta love it when a villain gets karmic punishment and everyone calls it bad writing because the good guys didn't personally push in the knife. |
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CadenGallic said: Except Naofumi was incredibly hypocritical about it, dude legitimately has a hate/revenge boner for Myne and the King. But when Raphtalia is close to getting revenge on the person that abused her and her friends, he sticks his nose in. Thus leading to her choosing not to kill FUB, because she doesn't want to be like him. Which makes no sense given that FUB harmed killed the demihumans because he's racist as fuck and gets off on torture, while her killing him would be revenge and putting an end to his evil deeds.Demyx_IX said: It's not that they didn't push in the knife, it's the reasoning/justification of why they chose not to. Naofumi allowed Raphtalia to say her piece, didn't tell her to stop and only asked her a question about if she wanted to do it. Raphtalia chose not to because that's not the kind of person she is or wants to be. It's simple and emotional enough to understand considering this whole episode is about Raphtalia coming to terms with her past and suffering. There's no problem other than people trying to be overly critical and a clash of viewpoints because seeing things from Raph's perspective is hard I suppose. |
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CadenGallic said: It wasn't any of his business on whether or not she stopped to think about killing him or not. So yeah, he stuck his nose in.Demyx_IX said: Except Naofumi was incredibly hypocritical about it, dude legitimately has a hate/revenge boner for Myne and the King. But when Raphtalia is close to getting revenge on the person that abused her and her friends, he sticks his nose in. Thus leading to her choosing not to kill FUB, because she doesn't want to be like him. Which makes no sense given that FUB harmed killed the demihumans because he's racist as fuck and gets off on torture, while her killing him would be revenge and putting an end to his evil deeds. Stick his nose in? The guy stood back and let Raphtalia take lead, all he did was ask her one question to think about it further and she made the choice not to kill him. It's not like he ordered her to stop or took her sword away, even when Idol pulled his sword on her he let Raphtalia handle it. Also he is only seeking vindication for "kidnapping" Melty. Not the rape accusation. |
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CadenGallic said: This is false in every single definition of the word. If he was after vindication of the rape, he would have gone about gathering proof that he didn't. Demyx_IX said: It wasn't any of his business on whether or not she stopped to think about killing him or not. So yeah, he stuck his nose in. Also he is only seeking vindication for "kidnapping" Melty. Not the rape accusation. No, it's always been vindication. Why do you think he demanded the King bow to him and beg for forgiveness just two episodes ago, before the Melty situation began? People just call it revenge because understanding narrative themes is apparently difficult for some people. And telling the king to get on his knees and beg for forgiveness has nothing to do with that. That is without a doubt him trying to get the king to humiliate himself. And he knew full well that the king would not do it. And you took it completely out of context. Naofumi tells him to do that, as "payment" for giving up information on how he was able to beat the boss and hold his own against Glass. |
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CadenGallic said: Two weeks went buy between the day he was accused of rape, and the day he ended up buying Raphtalia. And the 'scene of the crime' was all of two rooms. It would not take more than a day or two to look over every thing.Demyx_IX said: This is false in every single definition of the word. If he was after vindication of the rape, he would have gone about gathering proof that he didn't. And telling the king to get on his knees and beg for forgiveness has nothing to do with that. That is without a doubt him trying to get the king to humiliate himself. And he knew full well that the king would not do it. And you took it completely out of context. Naofumi tells him to do that, as "payment" for giving up information on how he was able to beat the boss and hold his own against Glass. Gathering proof? When would he have had time for that? He got a handicap thanks to Myne and had to get a partner to even be ready for the first wave, when would he have time to get proof? And it took 2 weeks to get both of them at a high enough level to survive the first wave. And in the books, they did more than just go about leveling. So it's not like they couldn't take time off to go about looking into the whole thing. So you're wrong about that. CadenGallic said: How about the other nobles? Maybe if they saw the evidence of him being innocent, they could come to the king or even the Queen with the evidence when she got back. Hell, show the public that he was innocent, so that way the ones that weren't under the King's thumb, or criminals themselves, would not discriminate against him. And who's he going to present that proof to? The King whose daughter accused him of rape in the first place? The three heroes who immediately turned on him? The peasants whom the King silenced with his influence in the duel? CadenGallic said: Yes I did take that section out of context, specifically to emphasise my point that if Naofumi wanted, he could've taken the King's guards and killed him by now. Instead he wants him to beg for forgiveness, to vindicate his own innocence. Humiliating the King is part of that, no King who knows he's truly innocent would do that. Humiliating the King is a case of him being petty and going with the age old adage; "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." The king and Malty have wronged him several times and caused him to suffer more than any supposed savior of the world should. And he's just paying him back for it. Also the King refused to do as Naofumi said, not because he knew that Naofumi was innocent, but because he knew it was meant to put himself through the humiliation of looking weak. Also, the King hates the Shield Hero for reasons that won't be revealed in the show. |
Demyx_IXApr 20, 2019 6:47 PM
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| If you kill him, you will be just like him and revenge is bad have to be the worst tropes |
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"You'll be just as bad as them" Can this logic just fuck off already? Why can't we just have a good Inigo Montoya moment where somebody revels in revenge? |
Yourmom53 said: DirectorK said: Oh, I see. You basically hate this anime because it's not written accordingly to your standards, whatever that's suppose to be. God this sentence is dumb, "I see you don't like this series because of your opinion of it" like no duh thats for everyone who likes/dislikes a show I don't mind people criticizing a show that I actually like. What I don't like is when these kind of people bring on these angry rants, saying these characters are stupid, the anime is boring, predicable, and full of cliches and whatever else without ever going into exact detail why and when someone tries to explain it to them they brush it off and treat those people like they're inferior to them. A bigger problem that I have is when we have a story that features serious issue such as slavery and morals and these same people unfairly criticize the show without ever about why certain events happened the way they did or why certain characters make a crucial decisions and when someone tries to explain it to them the same thing happens. These are just emotional knee-jerk reactions, negative criticism to be specific, not constructive. |
| "You talk too much. Think too much." "I don't care how justified you think your reasons are. I won't tolerate liars or thieves." "If you're not going to be nice to me, don't expect me to be nice to you." "I'm a soldier, not a superhero. Don't ever think of me as one." "The world doesn't revolve around you. Get that through your thick skull." "People who live by their emotions go nowhere in their lives. They only find misery. "If you don't like the way your life is than do something about it instead of sitting there feeling sorry for yourself." "You want something go get it. Period." |
| Why a dinosaur though. |
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