Zaregoto Series
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| Gotta say, the real identity of the murderer and her motive threw me off. Interesting how things turned out at the end. |
| If I remember correctly, Shaft didn't adapt this scene Or is my memory just fuzzy? Overall, it was a fine adaptation. I'm really hoping that they will adapt the whole series. The 2nd volume is the best (I stopped there tho XD) Edit: I just confirmed it, my memory serves right after all XD. They didn't adapt the scene with Himena Maki. Is this a hint that there's no future adaptations? I hope it's not. |
Shineee_Nov 23, 2017 8:26 PM
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| Well I guess it was okay. I like the first half of the show but the revelations didn't really surprise me that much. It's like the protagonist won the battle but the antagonists won the war. At least Jun Aikawa's insight answered many of the questions the conflicted and lazy MC didn't bother with because he was too busy with his ramblings about death, life, and Tomo. And seriously what's up with Maki's absurd power of mind reading and her condescending attitude towards the protagonist? In the end it just felt pointless with nothing really being achieved as the MC was just a tool to trigger the whole murder mystery with characters like Maki who was seemingly aware of the whole thing thanks to her telepathic powers but didn't care and a fake Ilia who under the command of real Ilia wanted a detective mystery without police intervention. It's like everyone were going with the flow and subtly mocking the wannabe detective MC with their secrets. And it's also strange how most characters were completely fine with someone being brutally murdered and their murderers who also tried to kill others are now walk free to possibly repeat the same cycle again once they get bored of Sonoyama's identity. Either way I feel the show was alright but not as good as some of the other murder mysteries I have seen. I felt like the whole mystery would've been solved before it even began if there were surveillance cameras and police intervention. |
I-JitsuNov 25, 2017 10:42 PM
| Remember at the end of episode 7 when Akane turns up at the dinner table? The revealed murderer finally turning up in front of everyone. I was so excited to watch the next episode and see what happens. So unsurprisingly I feel completely ripped off by this finale. Seriously, what the fuck? Instead of actually showing us what happened they simply have a character turn up out of the blue and tell us what happened through an absurd amount of tedious exposition. This is not a good way to end a mystery show. It's lazy, stupid and I can't believe anybody actually thought this was a decent way to wrap things up. Honestly I found the whole thing insulting. It's been a long time since a final episode of an anime pissed me off as much as this did. |
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| What a bunch of nonsense. Or was it? Personally I'm pretty satisfied with this finale wrapping up all of it. I love Jun. |
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| That was great series and Jun totally wrecked and took apart "Me"s investigation, totally expected from the world's greatest consultant. I loved this OVA so much that I'm adding it to my favorite list. I loved every character except Akane/Ibuki and Shinya, I believed they got away with it pretty easily with no punishment for them. In the end they were the winners and I hated that. Overall I liked how plot twisted the ova was and the animation was great too. The mystery was so entertaining that I never wanted anything to interrupt me. Great ova even though it had 8 episodes, they managed to kill it with precision. 9/10 from me. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| well...boring episode 40 minutes of talking on an auto. Some dialogues were good but the rest...meh Still a good series overall |
| They left the island? Rei so fine. Rei is actually Ilia? Ilia so fine. I'll let you hug me. I want to feel that oppai. Dat beautiful Ilia smile. Dat arm. Akane got away. Yes! Is that the woman from the start? I recognize that fine body. Dem legs. Dat kick. She's Aikawa? Humanity's strongest consultant. lol Kanami didn't do the painting? lol at Ii now confused. Kanami was a fake and the real one is alive. WTF! The real Akane was murdered? Then who is my waifu? Don't tell me she's really... Dem Jun lips. Akane is Kanami. Tensai. lol at Jun kicking him out the car. Dat Kanami booty. Ii feels nothing. He said the name of the episode. Ii goes to Tomo's side. And that was the end. Great series. My waifu, Aka- I mean, Kanami still lives. She is perfection. Wish she was in this episode. I'll miss her and Re-I mean Ilia. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| Wait a minute, wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE! A show that was seemingly predictable pulling something like that out of the bag in the last episode, calling back to pretty much every unanswered question from throughout the show!? I LIKE IT!!! |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Ha.. peeps calling real Ibuki a psychopathic should really learn a new word. The finale was fantastic and never in my wildest dreams would I come to this twist. Ii-chan was showed his place as a half-assed apathetic MC. One of the best mystery shows I've seen. 9/10 |
| Hmm this episod was almost 100% MC, which I didn't like very much.. 7/10 |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| What a nonsensical series. In li-chan's words: "I feel robbed." 7/10 |
| Looks like some part of my initial guesses were right. Overall wasn't bad but wasn't good either. The weird unique animation by shaft was honesty annoying, and this isn't the first time, maybe I should just avoid shaft in the future, it just isn't my thing. |
Always the same… Every age, every generation. Human beings are infinitely more cruel and selfish than any demon in hell ~Dantalion (Makai Ouji) |
| that was more pretentiously stupid and lackluster than i wanted it to be. i'm a genius loser at heart so it didn't hit home all too hard. moral of the story, don't kill lol. k thx. |
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| The background while she's driving is so wild xD I guess it's right Genius and Crazy is separated by thin line of thread If people knew they're doing bad things, they're crazy But if not, they're genius Morally grey ending, not sure if I'm satisfied with the killer still loose and unpunished But I kinda like it, truly nonsense anime xD |
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| Well, another unexpected thing has been revealed. Rei is the real Ilia, and Ilia that we know is the fake Ilia, didn't expect that at all and I don't even pay attention on it. Okay what just happened, why did they let the killer live like that? They act like nothing happened at all. Aikawa or should I say Jun looks cool, if I would explain her she is a girl who knows everything. Basically this is about body swap and prank story, and here I thought it was all real. I love this show and I was completely fooled by this anime, without this episode I will be confused about what is real and what is not. I enjoyed this a lot, and I hope there will be a second season. |
| Last episode felt really abrupt. I understand what happened with the case but I was expecting the finale to be about Kunagisa yet she wasn't even in it. Was expecting some big developments regarding her character and their relationship but it just ended up resolving the murder mystery instead. |
| Damn that was pretty great! I wasn’t convinced by the penultimate episode... with the unlikely partnership of Akane and Sakaki, and the motive being the brain eating thing, so I’m glad there was a twist to the story. Ibuki impersonating Akane so perfectly (and vice versa) was definitely unexpected, and her motive of wanting to be reborn as someone else was pretty interesting. Aikawa’s words were very insightful... “photos don’t move, reality does.” Just like how the geniuses were played into believing Akane and Ibuki were their real selves, the viewers also accepted it as a part of the narrative, and in both cases, we willingly believed it as the truth. Now looking in hindsight though, the story dropped subtle hints that the person swaps are the main crux to the story... first with Teruko “lying” about how the triplets interchange bodies, then with the swap of Ilia and Rei, and then finally with Ibuki and Sonoyama. One point I wish they focused on more would definitely be Maki’s point of view on the story. She is the equivalent of Gaen Izuko in Monogatari with how she knows everything. I’m interested to see why she was so critical of the MC. It was likely one and the same with what Aikawa said at the end....How he is content with the way things are and doesn’t seek out the truth, in favour of things not making sense, which then evolved into an apathy towards all things. At the end, when he turns back towards the apartment and resolves to visit Kunagisa is likely his first step in trying to change his empty self. Likely, Kunagisa is the one who is able to help change him and he recognizes this. All in all, the final episode was definitely the best one and redeemed some of the contentions I had initially. In actuality, the story is an in-depth look at MC and the steps he goes through in order to make sense of who he is/wants to be.... all disguised as a refreshing take on the locked room mystery. This series would definitely benefit from a rewatch. 8/10 |
| One of the worst anime in detective genre ever. "They just used old body and represented it as a new!", yeah sure, like it won't decompose on next day already when MC at last decided to check it and room for evidences. Everything else is pretentious garbage which is filling holes of uninteresting script. "Hey, people just look different on photos in comparison with real life!", yeah sure, only in your broken mind, retarded author. Most boring cringe-fest I ever seen and listen. Author should have been to read Conan Doyle or at least play in Ace Attorney, Danganronpa or Zero Escape to know what logic looks like or at least close to believable. Pathetic. |
| Well that was weird. But reading some comments apparently there is more to this story than just this part, so I guess it will make sense at some point in the future. Its all a lot of pretentious nonsense indeed, especially the explanation Aikawa Jun gave. This doesnt really work well standalone for me. There is only one truth which matters TRIPLET MAIDS |
Comander-07Jun 25, 2020 5:57 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| I'm pretty happy about the fhe final twist about "Kanami" having switch with Akane explaing many of the missing pieces. Overall, it's a decent show even if there are some parts that are just meaningless pseudo philosophical ramblings. |
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| Jun Aikawa was great. Easily the best character in the entire series right for the very end, and she has some genuine personality to enjoy too (plus easily my favorite design too, just awesome in every way). Liked the really long car ride too and the conversation when piecing everything together. The final parts was all nonsense but that's what the show is... nonsense, and not as an insult. I still feel underwhelmed by how stretched out this adaptation was while cutting monologues and details that would have made it even better. Was an odd one really. Visuals underwhelmed me as well despite some glimpses of promise with the final few episodes, especially on the imagery side with the great car ride. |
animejasDec 9, 2020 10:11 AM
Lawgun said: One of the worst anime in detective genre ever. "They just used old body and represented it as a new!", yeah sure, like it won't decompose on next day already when MC at last decided to check it and room for evidences. Everything else is pretentious garbage which is filling holes of uninteresting script. "Hey, people just look different on photos in comparison with real life!", yeah sure, only in your broken mind, retarded author. Most boring cringe-fest I ever seen and listen. Author should have been to read Conan Doyle or at least play in Ace Attorney, Danganronpa or Zero Escape to know what logic looks like or at least close to believable. Pathetic. Dude... reading all this makes me think this anime murdered your family and your cat or smth like that. I've never seen someone so angry over something in my entire life. And I could have agreed with you over some aspects of Zaregoto being kinda unrealistic but... are you sure you even played any of these games? Like at least ONE of this list? You must be a troll, I refuse to believe someone actually presents DanganRonpa (where, if you fail to deduct a murder weapon, everybody say YOU are the murderer), Zero Escape (I don't even want to talk about "twist" from ZTD, because it was greatest ass-pull I've seen in my life) and Ace Attorney.... Ace Attorney. Ace. Attorney. Putting Ace Attorney next to "close to believable"... well, that's an interesting world, that's for sure. Now excuse me, I have to rethink my life priorities... |
TheMangaManiac said: Dude... reading all this makes me think this anime murdered your family and your cat or smth like that. I've never seen someone so angry over something in my entire life. And I could have agreed with you over some aspects of Zaregoto being kinda unrealistic but... are you sure you even played any of these games? Like at least ONE of this list? You must be a troll, I refuse to believe someone actually presents DanganRonpa (where, if you fail to deduct a murder weapon, everybody say YOU are the murderer), Zero Escape (I don't even want to talk about "twist" from ZTD, because it was greatest ass-pull I've seen in my life) and Ace Attorney.... Ace Attorney. Ace. Attorney. Putting Ace Attorney next to "close to believable"... well, that's an interesting world, that's for sure. Now excuse me, I have to rethink my life priorities... Yeah, you definitely should to rethink your life priorities if you think that such a lame excuse will work somehow. All of three game series have several games each of it has many episodes which are pretty different and most of time are irrelevant to a main story. Yes, all of them have its flaws which are mostly forgettable or excusable because of story scale and many strong points including a tend to adequacy and plausibility, when Kubikiri Cycle is a crap on unbelievable level in each aspect of story or mystery so pretty much anything else looks better and more adequate in a comparison. I recommend you to use "everything is known by comparison" more often in your life since you totally ignored such an important factor with your "this anime isn't so crappy because cons are in everything". Do I need to explain such obvious things like in Danganronpa people are stressed and ready to kill anyone for their own safety, there is a GAMEPLAY aspect when MC accused in a murder by everyone else if player failed because it's a GAME. Your nitpicking is on par with "Hey, blood is pink in Danganronpa! Totally not plausible!" which is nothing in comparison with "let's use the same body for several days since everyone is retarded (geniuses by plot somehow)". Zero time dilemma was made by dying company so it's an equivalent to MGS5, the whole game was a nonsense especially with "deus ex machina" ending in comparison with previous two games but still it had some interesting moments and was good in overall which is still much better than a total disaster - Kubikiri Cycle. Ace Attorney is about "logic within the case" and couldn't be measured by skeptical "but it's just a comedy most of time since there is a spirit channeling! Totally not plausible!". What next? If I took as an example some fantasy anime with elfs you'll say it's not plausible because elfs aren't exist. If I took as an example some old sci-fi anime you'll say that it's non-plausible too since there are visible lasers in space what is impossible (even though it was made for more interesting action scenes). Do you see any difference between your nitpicking and actual logic failure in terms of story itself? Danganronpa, Ace Attorney, Zero Escape and pretty much everything else are functioning in terms of stories and inside of their worlds with their own rules and conditions which are based on our reality if opposite wasn't noted. Kubikiri Cycle should be about a world full of blind cretins where corpse decomposition doesn't exist to be any plausible and since such conditions weren't noted this anime is officially crap. |
LawgunFeb 22, 2021 9:34 AM
Lawgun said: The mystery here ended up being more of a secondary thing. I was more interested in the characters especially the MC. It just didn't suit your taste , That's pretty much okay , This type of works by Nisio isn't going to appeal to everyone. It's just not your typical mystery , "Absurd" is definitely something that comes to mind when reading. As for your claim , I'm not sure , But given the amount of time are the bodies really bound to decompose so quickly to a very noticeable extent? If so , It could play into Akane's game , Li-chan had to notice something , She wanted him to solve the mystery before Jun comes One of the worst anime in detective genre ever. "They just used old body and represented it as a new!", yeah sure, like it won't decompose on next day already when MC at last decided to check it and room for evidences. Everything else is pretentious garbage which is filling holes of uninteresting script. "Hey, people just look different on photos in comparison with real life!", yeah sure, only in your broken mind, retarded author. Most boring cringe-fest I ever seen and listen. Author should have been to read Conan Doyle or at least play in Ace Attorney, Danganronpa or Zero Escape to know what logic looks like or at least close to believable. Pathetic. |
| trippy anime done right |
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| this show should be called "how to tell a nonsensical 20-minute story in 4 hours" |
| could've showed them together at the end instead of him just entering the building but this such a perfect finale pretty much wrapped up the entire mystery the missing points and deeper into the characters I wouldn't say everything he did was meaningless in the end as he himself changed a bit seeing how to he turned back to kunagisa instead of just leaving 8/10 9/10 if there was more |
Karva1Jun 1, 2024 10:31 AM
| Inhales oxygen |
| I am glad that this crap is dead and pretty much nobody remembers about it anymore despite a bunch of fanatics in past which used meme-tier copium - 'what a nonsensical ending! 10/10'. It's not a surprise that weak willed and plainly stupid people tend to ignore obvious failures and plot holes by referencing to 'just people have different tastes' as excuse. |
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