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Nov 10, 2024 1:47 PM

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Teh gods are on her side.

Behold of my awesomeness~
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But my feels.
Nov 10, 2024 2:20 PM
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Had a feeling that dude was gonna do Joletta dirty. And it seems she's the daughter of inquisitor nowak, I'm interested in her character already
Nov 10, 2024 5:51 PM

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I knew immediately that Kolbe was going to steal her work, but I'm glad that she found out about it very quickly. What's still surprising is the fact that she's Nowak's daughter since is kind of ironic that she's seeking something that usually her dad kills people for. However, I'm excited for her to join the gang. She'll be thrilled with all the research and information they have already.

Badeni lost some respect by not honouring the request ngl
Nov 10, 2024 6:29 PM

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I knew immediately that Kolbe was going to steal her work, but I'm glad that she found out about it very quickly. What's still surprising is the fact that she's Nowak's daughter since is kind of ironic that she's seeking something that usually her dad kills people for. However, I'm excited for her to join the gang. She'll be thrilled with all the research and information they have already.

Badeni lost some respect by not honouring the request ngl
@Sun_Chan It's probably for the best. Potocki reported Rafal anyway to the authorities even if he believes in heliocentrism.

It's a risk they shoudn't take.
Nov 10, 2024 10:47 PM
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It's interesting seeing how the dots connect.
Nov 10, 2024 11:31 PM

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I stumbled into watching this show last week and I gotta say this is genuinely a hidden gem. As someone who loves history and historical fiction, this is amazing.

Nowak being the father of Jolenta puts him in such a hard situation. Him trying to suppress his daughter's ambitions for his personal career and both of their livelihoods while also trying to encourage her to be a scholar has to be really hard to pull off.

She got scammed hard! I bet he thinks he's doing the right thing but his ulterior motives are brutal and I hope we see some justice eventually.

BTW never heard of this Seiyuu before, When I first heard her, I thought she was Hina Yomiya (VA for Anna Yamada (Bokuyaba), and Minami (Oshi no ko)).
She sounds great.

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Nov 11, 2024 2:10 AM

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This was a heavy episode. Felt so sorry for the girl. That smart and only 14, must be a witch indeed :).
Guy who stole her work. I wonder if he really cares for her, or he's just bullshiting deliberately. I mean, considering the era he may honestly believe what he said, without ill intent.
The girls lucky though. Even at the end, she's lucky the duo was conveniently at the right time and place as she's posting her answer. And, she's lucky those two couldn't care less about her sex (I believe).
Nov 11, 2024 4:37 AM

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kuroneko99 said:
FullyCharged said:
For example, by having the daughter do both parts.
She says her line and then a short silence and she retells her dad's reply using indirect speech, then she replies to that, and so on.
It's not even an uncommon trope in anime.
Though it's generally used to just not dub that one person lol
But that would be a neat way to use the trope to hide a character's identity.
It's not like it won't be revealed later so it wouldn't even be overused.
Welp, they missed chance to do that I guess

It may have been another option to use letters as a communication tool between a father and a daughter.

Or skip the meeting all together. But the letter would be better. Now, the giant plot twist is spoiled. They did ruin it
@Baranka02 Another option would be to make Nowak sick during that time and have a hoarse and hardly recognisable voice.
Nov 11, 2024 5:57 AM
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In this episode, we’re introduced to a new character, Joletna, who has a talent for astronomy. However, as a woman, she’s denied the chance to pursue her passion fully. We see her struggle as she has to give up claiming her work, torn between what she truly believes and what society forces her to do much like Rafal, who also grapples with contradictions between his ideals and his actions. The cliffhanger was perfectly executed. Leaving me impatient for the next episode. This is, without a doubt, my pick for Anime of the Year.
Nov 11, 2024 12:29 PM
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This anime went woke. SAD!
Nov 11, 2024 5:54 PM

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Man, WHAT THE FUCK THIS ANIME STORY IS FUCKING CRAZY. After seeing the two originals writers of the theory, we get told in an ultimatum that this group of people will be the one explaining the theory of Earth's moving, I really expected from the first death that it's gonna be people leaving their learnings to another person and the cycle repeats. BUT THIS ISN'T ONLY IT. We get to know that Jolenta father is Nowak (duh we hear the voice) and from what we see at the end of the episode, these three may be the trio to reveal this religion-shattering discovery breakthrough and they might fight Nowak in the future, that sounds like a crazy plot twist and very epic. I also like how Jolenta was introduced in the anime, this anime don't hesitate to show thinking errors and fallacy in the medieval age, how religion can overpower someone way of thinking and not accept the truth, I think it's a great plot point to introduce a woman, that makes the iregularity and difference of the group from everyone else even more big, a woman can become a genius. I wasn't sure what way the anime was going after Rafal death, but this does seem like a very good turning point. Excited to see what they are gonna do for a whole cour and a half left, writing is fire.
I like everything, ok
Nov 11, 2024 9:37 PM

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That was a really good depiction of misogyny, and her character feels very belieavable.
Nov 11, 2024 9:40 PM

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At first i thought Jolenta VA was Saori Hayami but after i saw the cast she is new VA and she did a good job for her main role debut
@ArcViralRush YES, I thought so too. She sounds good
Nov 12, 2024 1:34 AM
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Jolenta pretty epic


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Nov 12, 2024 4:49 AM

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Badeni is an arrogant pain in the ass without honor and integrity at all... 🤢
Nov 12, 2024 11:32 AM

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Oh this is interesting twist of ironic fate with who Jolenta's dad is
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Nov 12, 2024 3:28 PM
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Kolbe gives me chills…it also gives me chills that he ain’t even that wrong about what he is saying…

Side note: this anime is peak
Nov 13, 2024 7:31 AM
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Aww poor Jolenta man misogyny back in the day was fucking atrocious that shit was a cesspool filled with men who couldn’t handle a woman doing what they could do, Kolbe and his way of treating Jolenta may come off as he’s just looking out for her but nah he’s actually one of those misogynistic men, I have a feeling that the old priest is willing to listen to her but we’ll just have to wait and see for now

Badeni needs to cool it man bros a pain in the ass man but it’s I can’t be mad bc it’s Gojo’s VA playing him and all I hear is Gojo😭😭😭😭

I think the most shocking part from this whole episode is the fact that Jolenta’s father is NOWAK!! Ok we don’t know yet but come on it’s his VA that we can hear but imma still be surprised when they show him man bc wdym he’s rooting for his daughter who’s into astrology???🤨 I like to think that Nowak changed after dealing with Rafal, Rafal was really was him man🔥
Nov 13, 2024 6:32 PM
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Damn, this series is so good.

Felt so bad for the girl. F that traitorous freeloader.
Nov 13, 2024 8:41 PM
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Who would have thought Nowak has a daughter that doing astronomy research.
WOW
Nov 14, 2024 11:20 AM
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This kinda has some 2000 anime vibes, no?
Like main characters actually have time to build and the last of the main cast first appears in episode 7, it's a really uncommon occurence in modern day anime more or less.
Nov 15, 2024 6:52 AM

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Great episode, feel like it starts to pick up again since that incredible 3rd episode. Is there any info on if it'll cover the whole manga in 25 episodes?
Nov 15, 2024 5:20 PM

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Things were so much worse back then, people weren’t allowed to freely pursue research, and women were even forbidden from trying. I felt heartbroken when Jolenta started crying after realizing how unfair this world is and began to lose hope. Luckily for her, everything is about to change.
Nov 17, 2024 8:12 PM

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Badeni won't even give 10% of the findings to the person stated in the letter and asks Oczy to sacrifice his entire share? That egotistical prick! I don't like him anymore.

Poor Jolenta. Pushed to the side and not "allowed" to learn because she's female? And then her mentor takes her treatise and passes it off as her own "for her safety"? That plagiarist is too good at gaslighting. Geez this makes me so angry.

Nov 17, 2024 10:22 PM

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Interesting to find out that Jolenta is Nowak's daughter, I like how the characters that have been introduced are interconnected in some way. I also see implications with Jolenta delving into subject matter that is controversial especially considering who her father is and I wouldn't doubt for him to sacrifice her if it came to that....

Anyways, for now Jolenta gets to meet Badeni and Oczy whom I'm sure appear to be intimidating figures as they approach her but she'll find out that they're friendly.
Nov 28, 2024 5:39 PM
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They ruined the surprise of jolentas father because of tsudaken but alot of people already theorize that shes his daughter so ill let it pass, we also got ulquirorra'S va as Kolbe
Nov 28, 2024 10:16 PM
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Jolenta has finally entered the scene.
I honestly would've watched this even if it had trash animation.
The plot, the characters supersede any potential criticism one might have
@MickeyMinaj yeah the story and characters hard carried this show, the animation isn't bad but its kinda lackluster sometimes
Nov 28, 2024 10:21 PM
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This anime went woke. SAD!
@Yang_Wenli shut up kolbe lol
Nov 29, 2024 9:54 PM
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YESSSSSSS I had an inkling Jolenta was the daughter of Nowak (Kenjirou's voice is just too iconic to not recognize). I am so intrigued on how Nowak will have to confront on whether to put the Church first or his daughter (since we know from the first act that he is deeply fond of her), assuming she begins to really look into astronomy as well. At this point, she is most definitely Rafal's age and I hope he'll be reminded of Rafal's conviction based on her own determination to pursue the truth.

And the way Kolbe is damn shitty for taking the credit for Jolenta's work but unfortunately not being entirely wrong given what we know about how women were treated during that time... Jolenta under the wrong crowd would have absolutely been cast aside purely for the fact that she was a woman and we've seen that she is not allowed to directly pursue an education in the classroom. And yet, teling someone so young yet ambitious to "Give up on that. It's the way things are" with a smile is so deeply disheartening.
Dec 7, 2024 1:24 AM

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New character and it's his daughter, the karma. The irony that she'll follow in Rafal's foot steps. What'll he do when he funds out? Torture and kill her? Also knew what that orange dude was upto lol.
Dec 12, 2024 7:28 AM
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Amazing episode all around
Dec 19, 2024 8:51 AM
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Wouldn't be surprised if he tries to get rid of her because he's afraid she's outperforming him.
Dec 29, 2024 11:04 AM
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Kolbe, Kolbe, vete al diablo >:(
Dec 30, 2024 12:46 PM

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So much to think about for this episode. First, I don’t think I like Badeni right now. I hope he grows into a more likable character, because saying stuff like he refuses to be a stepping stone for a future generation seems super disrespectful to everyone who has died thus far. Not to mention the fact that he won’t even honor a 10% profit request to the researcher who changed his whole life. He’s smart, but he seems kind of scummy. Second, I empathize with Jolenta’s struggle. She deserves so much more respect than she gets, and I’m guessing she will be joining our characters in proving a heliocentric model. (8.5/10)
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Jolenta being at the wrong place at the right time to hear about astronomy, she's a lucky girl.

While the astronomy findings are still incomplete, Oczy wants in to finish what Rafal started from Badeni, bringing him straight to the hidden box, but leaving the 10% out because of personal reasons, which Oczy can cover that, though it will dishonour future generations. But to condemn Jolenta's request to learn the subject matter, only to be rejected, the assistant for Kolbe sure is making small improvements to understand the treatise, and that's all she's going to learn...if she didn't stood up for herself.

With Jolenta's treatise approved by Count Piast, but submitted in Kolbe's name, he's a real jerk, but because misogyny existed in the old ages, and this was the result as such, even with the Count himself questioning her if it's true, which she gave into the pressure and omitted her name out. Jolenta might be thinking of her next treatise, but it's clear that she wants her name out in some form, and a request for theoretical astronomy captures her attention. And despite her thinking that it's wrong to indulge into astronomy, meeting both Oczy and Badeni and answering their problem, certainly will turn her into the right direction.

The 3 theoretical people, combining their brain cells together, will be a force to reckon with.
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This shit was so magnificent T_T
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Ain't no way the girl actually a daughter of Tsuda. That's the twist for sure, he's handling a karma right there. But for more importantly, dude Badein really give such a selfish condition to the innocent Oczy. Fuckin hell he's so greedy turning down Rafal wish with the profit. Idk if its gonna turn out badly, but i still wish for Otzy at least gives more argument to the face of those greedy monk. Rafal can have a one or two words against him, pretty sure....

Well aside that, still interesting what the girl can do to lift up the theory onto more publicly. Must be pretty tough considering the era was so dark that time. But she still have God's bless of luck, right? Move the earth. Move the world.
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Inaccuracy in this episode. The globe axis should be vertical, not angled. The offset axis was only added after heliocentrism, because it's at an angle with the sun's orbit
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Man I felt it when Kolbe with the most obvious look on his face said, "of course, I did it with my name on it".

Seriously, if at that moment Jolenta would've slapped the life out of him, that might have become THE most satisfying thing to happen, but yeah as if. She can't do that and it's wrong to expect this out of her as well, especially in those age and times. I'm just glad she met Oczy and Badeni in the end. Waiting for Nowak to find this all though...
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Badeni is one with unique personality, he really doesn't care about the wishes of the ghosts.

Oczy has a good heart on him.

Jolenta's position is understandable. If she shows herself as superior to males, her life can very well be in danger by several false accusations. But even still it's not right to accuse Kolbe, after all she's the one who backed down after, when a chance arrived.
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Conflicted on how I feel about Kolbe. He's not wrong at all considering the times. And he may have meant full well with pure intentions... or he may not have. And if he meant well with pure intentions, it only came across as disgusting because of our modern perspectives, and because it hurt Jolenta (also, because he went about it the wrong way, blindsiding her). To him who lived a decade+ in this world, what he did was only natural, common sense from their sociocultural perspective.
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Her being conflicted, crying and gaslighting herself after her idea was stolen and had to lie about not writing her material. That felt absolutely true to reality.
Though I could see that twist from mile away, because you can't have a good religious drama without good dose of misogyny.
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This is probably one of the few times where having such a distinct sounding voice actually DOESN’T help the story with regard to Nowak being her father: Everyone can immediately hear who it is, something that was probably a lot less obvious in the manga. But you can’t “substitute” a different voice since you’ve already established him. It’s a side effect of being really good at your craft, there wasn’t really a great solution. It’s just unfortunate in this case that the timbre of his voice is so unique and unmistakable that everyone’s immediately picking up on it.
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