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Oct 1, 2018 9:46 PM
#101
Depois da pesquisa de hoje, de 0 a 10, o quanto devo desistir do brasil? |
Remember guys, I AM NOT A PARAGON OF TASTE. I HAVE SHIT TASTE LIKE THE REST OF YOU. |
Oct 3, 2018 7:48 PM
#102
Demonarion said: Did you watch Edge of Tomorrow? Nope, that the movie that is kinda like all you need is kill right? |
Oct 3, 2018 7:51 PM
#103
Fellener said: Depois da pesquisa de hoje, de 0 a 10, o quanto devo desistir do brasil? Uns 32/10 Desisti já... Bolsonaro e Haddad, sem condições Povo sendo totalmente manipulado por pesquisas eleitorais tmb... Pesquisa gera mais voto que debate e propostas |
Oct 4, 2018 3:05 PM
#104
and your thoughts on Sirius? ^^ |
Oct 4, 2018 7:25 PM
#105
Caso o mito nao ganhe em primeiro turno, votaria em quem no segundo? |
Remember guys, I AM NOT A PARAGON OF TASTE. I HAVE SHIT TASTE LIKE THE REST OF YOU. |
Oct 10, 2018 11:19 AM
#106
PhKay said: and your thoughts on Sirius? ^^ Sirus spoilers ahead Let's talk about sirus ~ The anime had it's ups and down moments, but it was overall a good show I liked the beginning when the group was following leads of where the vampires could be and what they were planning, the oldish London vibe was a nice trait .. Story wise i feel like they started more complicated than necessary, with several organizations, army, journal, and who was following who etc... and afterwards they just made it pretty simple vampires vs non vampires xD.. Not sure how i feel about it but it was like the whole initial investigation and plot was rather unnecessary. I liked the overall work of PA with background, music, and character design. Dorothea was by far the most unique interesting design, i wish her and the squad had more screen time but unfortunately they got heavily relegated to support role in the final episodes. I like Yuliy as a character, his motives felt pretty real and also his conflicts, like his whole resolve having to change once he find out his brother was a vampire and that he would never kill him no matter what. I also like the vampires resolve, they weren't assholes because they felt like being assholes.. as you said there was a reason for them to do what they were doing, they are facing extinction.. they had to do something about it. That being said I didn't really like their "true form" was kinda "meh". Also the battles were kinda good at some moments and underwhelming at others... like the first vampire dude that was kinda strong but was killed pretty easily. In the final episodes we got more answers, like about Yuliy past and his father and why to seal the arc... but Yev's plan was kinda dumb.. why would he consume it just like that? without know anything about the arc? also those sparkling pants were awful xD... the final boss was again kinda underwhelming to me. The Yuliy getting away after getting the arc power was somewhat understandable i think, first there's a lot of power and figure it out how it work and how will he use that new found power.. also all nations on the world seek the arc, so he would be in danger staying near his former team i think. About the name , ive no idea why was it changed xD I don't know if it's something MAL changed, or they changed, or if it was always sirus and it was wrong here haha maybe to make it simple. I liked yuliy trying to make peace with everyone, even with the vampires represented by the loli one.. he was already starting to feel different about them, he felt fear in the eyes of one of the lolis (idk which one.. probably the one that survived) and didn't kill her, later he joined forces because he stooped looking at "what they are" and started to understand that the important is "who they are"... that's his development... although i agree with you that was weird that the loli vampire girl 1 didn't care for the loli vampire girl 2 death. |
Oct 10, 2018 11:22 AM
#107
Fellener said: Caso o mito nao ganhe em primeiro turno, votaria em quem no segundo? Dificil viu... tenho até brincado com alguns amigos que to com saudades de aecio vs dilma ... e to no time #ficamais4anostemer haha Uma coisa é muito certa, eu não voto no bolsonaro. O resto continua incerto. |
Oct 10, 2018 1:50 PM
#108
Harus said: Fellener said: Caso o mito nao ganhe em primeiro turno, votaria em quem no segundo? Dificil viu... tenho até brincado com alguns amigos que to com saudades de aecio vs dilma ... e to no time #ficamais4anostemer haha Uma coisa é muito certa, eu não voto no bolsonaro. O resto continua incerto. To no mesmo barco, gostaria que o cirao da massa tivesse uma reçao. Nao queria de jeito nenhum votar no pt, mas é o que pra hoje, entre fascista e filho da puta, prefiro o filho da puta. Qual o seu discord? Procuro pessoas para ter uma catarze coletiva chorando sobre politica. xD |
Remember guys, I AM NOT A PARAGON OF TASTE. I HAVE SHIT TASTE LIKE THE REST OF YOU. |
Oct 10, 2018 5:04 PM
#109
about Yev just "consuming the arc without knowing much" : my theory is that Mikhail intentionally misinformed him and that he had a clue it wouldn´t end well in reality. He was always (more or less) on his brother´s side and i also kinda noticed he didn´t try in the slightest to prevent Yev from swallowing the thing or even from obtaining it at any point. the official japanese title is Sirius the Jaeger so the Tenrou thing was a mistake. They shortened it too much though haha. MAL definitely does not go for simplication, man...given that anime with insanely long titles which are unpronounceable for most foreigners were left unchanged...like Shimoneta for example lol I don´t know about Yuliy staying away...he has basically turned into some kind of god or at least higher being. As such, the whole planet is probably fucked when it goes wrong regardless of where he is. Maybe i was misinterpreting it but i don´t think he can even be harmed by normal humans anymore. Then again who knows what destructiveness is unleashed by the arc when "it" feels in danger so maybe it does make sense... So what was great about the first episode of the new PA? ^^ I don´t mind spoilers for episode 1 haha I had to ask cause the MAL page is already interesting as after one episode, the recommendation section consists of Erased, Kimi no na wa, Nagi no Asukara and Violet Evergarden. All of those are brilliant! |
Oct 10, 2018 5:32 PM
#110
Fellener said: Harus said: Fellener said: Caso o mito nao ganhe em primeiro turno, votaria em quem no segundo? Dificil viu... tenho até brincado com alguns amigos que to com saudades de aecio vs dilma ... e to no time #ficamais4anostemer haha Uma coisa é muito certa, eu não voto no bolsonaro. O resto continua incerto. To no mesmo barco, gostaria que o cirao da massa tivesse uma reçao. Nao queria de jeito nenhum votar no pt, mas é o que pra hoje, entre fascista e filho da puta, prefiro o filho da puta. Qual o seu discord? Procuro pessoas para ter uma catarze coletiva chorando sobre politica. xD Fellener said: Harus said: Fellener said: Caso o mito nao ganhe em primeiro turno, votaria em quem no segundo? Dificil viu... tenho até brincado com alguns amigos que to com saudades de aecio vs dilma ... e to no time #ficamais4anostemer haha Uma coisa é muito certa, eu não voto no bolsonaro. O resto continua incerto. To no mesmo barco, gostaria que o cirao da massa tivesse uma reçao. Nao queria de jeito nenhum votar no pt, mas é o que pra hoje, entre fascista e filho da puta, prefiro o filho da puta. Qual o seu discord? Procuro pessoas para ter uma catarze coletiva chorando sobre politica. xD Tentei fazer Ciro passar.. até convenci meia duzia de pessoas, mas não deu. Tambem não gosto da ideia de votar no pt... por isso to incerto ainda... vai depender do que eu ver de hj até as eleições Harus #8962 ^ Discord Não to sempre on mas costumo olhar com bastante frequencia |
Oct 10, 2018 5:49 PM
#111
PhKay said: about Yev just "consuming the arc without knowing much" : my theory is that Mikhail intentionally misinformed him and that he had a clue it wouldn´t end well in reality. He was always (more or less) on his brother´s side and i also kinda noticed he didn´t try in the slightest to prevent Yev from swallowing the thing or even from obtaining it at any point. the official japanese title is Sirius the Jaeger so the Tenrou thing was a mistake. They shortened it too much though haha. MAL definitely does not go for simplication, man...given that anime with insanely long titles which are unpronounceable for most foreigners were left unchanged...like Shimoneta for example lol I don´t know about Yuliy staying away...he has basically turned into some kind of god or at least higher being. As such, the whole planet is probably fucked when it goes wrong regardless of where he is. Maybe i was misinterpreting it but i don´t think he can even be harmed by normal humans anymore. Then again who knows what destructiveness is unleashed by the arc when "it" feels in danger so maybe it does make sense... So what was great about the first episode of the new PA? ^^ I don´t mind spoilers for episode 1 haha I had to ask cause the MAL page is already interesting as after one episode, the recommendation section consists of Erased, Kimi no na wa, Nagi no Asukara and Violet Evergarden. All of those are brilliant! Mikhail was always on his little brother side, he never had any intention of harming him. Not sure if mikhail had that idea of misleading yev and even if he did that yev would fall for it.. maybe he was misled by the information he had from the professors previous research that was somewhat incomplete. Then it's pretty much mal staff being confused or miss translating it. Light novel tittles in general are just mean to forefingers xD Truth be told he new acquired powers are a total mystery to us, so it's hard to understand his current goals or actions. All we know is that he's a higher being. An OVA with a small time jump, like 5 years after the last episode would be nice... to see what have changed and who's everyone doing. ok spoilers ahead then Everybody dies!! o.O!!! lol jk xD There's some pretty beautiful background and animation , that's a pretty promising beginning. That aside the characters so far a likable, the story is flowing pretty well... it's just one episode but I feel that I'll enjoy it |
Oct 10, 2018 5:59 PM
#112
Harus said: PhKay said: about Yev just "consuming the arc without knowing much" : my theory is that Mikhail intentionally misinformed him and that he had a clue it wouldn´t end well in reality. He was always (more or less) on his brother´s side and i also kinda noticed he didn´t try in the slightest to prevent Yev from swallowing the thing or even from obtaining it at any point. the official japanese title is Sirius the Jaeger so the Tenrou thing was a mistake. They shortened it too much though haha. MAL definitely does not go for simplication, man...given that anime with insanely long titles which are unpronounceable for most foreigners were left unchanged...like Shimoneta for example lol I don´t know about Yuliy staying away...he has basically turned into some kind of god or at least higher being. As such, the whole planet is probably fucked when it goes wrong regardless of where he is. Maybe i was misinterpreting it but i don´t think he can even be harmed by normal humans anymore. Then again who knows what destructiveness is unleashed by the arc when "it" feels in danger so maybe it does make sense... So what was great about the first episode of the new PA? ^^ I don´t mind spoilers for episode 1 haha I had to ask cause the MAL page is already interesting as after one episode, the recommendation section consists of Erased, Kimi no na wa, Nagi no Asukara and Violet Evergarden. All of those are brilliant! Mikhail was always on his little brother side, he never had any intention of harming him. Not sure if mikhail had that idea of misleading yev and even if he did that yev would fall for it.. maybe he was misled by the information he had from the professors previous research that was somewhat incomplete. Then it's pretty much mal staff being confused or miss translating it. Light novel tittles in general are just mean to forefingers xD Truth be told he new acquired powers are a total mystery to us, so it's hard to understand his current goals or actions. All we know is that he's a higher being. An OVA with a small time jump, like 5 years after the last episode would be nice... to see what have changed and who's everyone doing. ok spoilers ahead then Everybody dies!! o.O!!! lol jk xD There's some pretty beautiful background and animation , that's a pretty promising beginning. That aside the characters so far a likable, the story is flowing pretty well... it's just one episode but I feel that I'll enjoy it hahaha that spoiler! That would actually be a pretty amazing start. At least you sure cannot predict how things continue...(they may just show an empty town for 11 episodes though...and everybody keeps watching because at some point something awesome will happen! like the endless 8 of haruhi. But it never does! It´s just empty streets and houses and then it´s over! |
Oct 10, 2018 6:18 PM
#113
PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: about Yev just "consuming the arc without knowing much" : my theory is that Mikhail intentionally misinformed him and that he had a clue it wouldn´t end well in reality. He was always (more or less) on his brother´s side and i also kinda noticed he didn´t try in the slightest to prevent Yev from swallowing the thing or even from obtaining it at any point. the official japanese title is Sirius the Jaeger so the Tenrou thing was a mistake. They shortened it too much though haha. MAL definitely does not go for simplication, man...given that anime with insanely long titles which are unpronounceable for most foreigners were left unchanged...like Shimoneta for example lol I don´t know about Yuliy staying away...he has basically turned into some kind of god or at least higher being. As such, the whole planet is probably fucked when it goes wrong regardless of where he is. Maybe i was misinterpreting it but i don´t think he can even be harmed by normal humans anymore. Then again who knows what destructiveness is unleashed by the arc when "it" feels in danger so maybe it does make sense... So what was great about the first episode of the new PA? ^^ I don´t mind spoilers for episode 1 haha I had to ask cause the MAL page is already interesting as after one episode, the recommendation section consists of Erased, Kimi no na wa, Nagi no Asukara and Violet Evergarden. All of those are brilliant! Mikhail was always on his little brother side, he never had any intention of harming him. Not sure if mikhail had that idea of misleading yev and even if he did that yev would fall for it.. maybe he was misled by the information he had from the professors previous research that was somewhat incomplete. Then it's pretty much mal staff being confused or miss translating it. Light novel tittles in general are just mean to forefingers xD Truth be told he new acquired powers are a total mystery to us, so it's hard to understand his current goals or actions. All we know is that he's a higher being. An OVA with a small time jump, like 5 years after the last episode would be nice... to see what have changed and who's everyone doing. ok spoilers ahead then Everybody dies!! o.O!!! lol jk xD There's some pretty beautiful background and animation , that's a pretty promising beginning. That aside the characters so far a likable, the story is flowing pretty well... it's just one episode but I feel that I'll enjoy it hahaha that spoiler! That would actually be a pretty amazing start. At least you sure cannot predict how things continue...(they may just show an empty town for 11 episodes though...and everybody keeps watching because at some point something awesome will happen! like the endless 8 of haruhi. But it never does! It´s just empty streets and houses and then it´s over! Darkest and "trollest" anime of all time xD 11 episodes of nothingness but dead people being ded |
Oct 10, 2018 6:26 PM
#114
so you threw in a couple of Shinsekai Yori episodes after i don´t know how long haha Do you plan to finish it soon or will it remain a long term project? |
Oct 10, 2018 6:59 PM
#115
PhKay said: so you threw in a couple of Shinsekai Yori episodes after i don´t know how long haha Do you plan to finish it soon or will it remain a long term project? I had to re watch the episode 10 to remember what was going on, things started to get back to my memory slowly hehe I plan on finishing it now, I'm only with 5 seasonal animes now (3 season 2 leftovers) so now I'll focus on those that already ended Shinsekai Yori, Owarimonogatari 2nd Season (and movies), Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card hen. Then I plan o focus on some from the ptw list... Need to start working on it or I'll never truly watch all i want to watch |
Oct 11, 2018 2:18 PM
#116
Are you excited about all the upcoming series related to Toaru Majutsu no Index? |
Oct 12, 2018 5:39 PM
#117
Puchkov said: Are you excited about all the upcoming series related to Toaru Majutsu no Index? Yes, but maybe not as much as I would be if it was a couple years ago xD They sure took their time, tbh i think no one was expecting the season 3 after so long. I had to do quick recap to remember what happened on the end of the previous season. I haven't read the light novel but from the little I've heard about it there plenty of source material to be adapted, so I really hope they decide to pick it up for real and we have a s4 and so on. Toaru Kagaku no Accelerator and Toaru Kagaku no Railgun 3 have been added to MAL database I'm hyped for the revival of the series as a whole ^^ That being said the first episode wasn't anything special but it was just one episode. |
Oct 17, 2018 10:20 AM
#118
If you had to pick between the Manga of One Piece and Hajime no Ippo, which one is better? And for how long do you plan to read them (assuming they continue to publish for the next 10 years)? |
Oct 17, 2018 4:29 PM
#119
looks like you had a great time with anime in the past couple of days giving away 9s for SY and Owari 2nd ^^ Final thoughts on both shows? Bonus question for SY: back then it won my survey for Best Ending in Anime. Can you understand why? ;) bonus question for Owari 2nd: Monogatari was always non-chronological but now that you know the ultimate ending of the main arc, do you think it will have an impact on future seasons when we will probably go back in time again? ^^ |
Oct 18, 2018 4:18 PM
#120
Puchkov said: If you had to pick between the Manga of One Piece and Hajime no Ippo, which one is better? And for how long do you plan to read them (assuming they continue to publish for the next 10 years)? That's a hard question x_x Those two are the mangas that I've been following the longest. Allow me to talk a little about both so I can think while I write haha In both cases I've decided to read the manga after watching the anime, in One Piece's case I was around episode 300 when i got tired of fillers and waiting to see what's going to happen next so i decided to move to the manga. Same thing i did with Naruto and Bleach at the time, guess that's when i got kinda tired of those endless Shounen anime not because i don't like the action but because they are soooooo slow since they can't catch up with the manga, current shounen are working around that problem better (like boku no hero academia). Hajime no ippo was the same, after the after the second season i found out the manga and decided to catch up ~ Hard to say which one is better since I think they are pretty different. One Piece is the classic shounen where we have the never ending search for the treasure while they get tangled in the plot with a bunch of new characters (that i keep forgetting and remembering exist) and keep getting power ups, and advancing with the story very slowly... Still even having most of the shounen tropes OP does it better then the others, they really use their time to describe new islands/places, what's going on there, who are the one that live there, what are their story.. and as the arc go on there's always a concern to let the reader know what's going on... I guess that the details and exentric characters make OP quite unique... Meanwhile Hajime no Ippo is a bit more character development driven i guess. We have a story with beginning, middle and eventually an ending.. trying to give depth and background to most characters, obviously focusing more on the main ones... It feels more grounded to reality too, which i also like a lot , also the amount of research made to properly replicate the boxing universe makes it a richer manga. In both cases i already had big hiatus... There was a time I forgot about OP and didn't read it for like 2 years xD, same happened with Ippo I catch up with it last month because i didn't read it in like 1 year too lol I don't think i can point out which one is better, i really like both. If I had to pick i guess i would stay with Hajime no ippo, mainly because the characters are more 'real' (since they are grounded to reality) so their development is more real too. I plan on read them until they end xD be that in 1,5,10,30 years. My plan is just to keep reading them ~ |
Oct 19, 2018 5:10 PM
#121
PhKay said: looks like you had a great time with anime in the past couple of days giving away 9s for SY and Owari 2nd ^^ Final thoughts on both shows? Bonus question for SY: back then it won my survey for Best Ending in Anime. Can you understand why? ;) bonus question for Owari 2nd: Monogatari was always non-chronological but now that you know the ultimate ending of the main arc, do you think it will have an impact on future seasons when we will probably go back in time again? ^^ Great times indeed ~ When you watch good animes like those it makes you wonder why do I sometimes waste my time on 'meh' animes xD that being said I'll really focus on my ptw list for this next months. Let's start with Shinsekai no Yori ~ I was around episode 10 when i had a huge hiatus, so i really had to do a catch up. Good thing I had all episodes saved so I did a quick recap passing by quickly on the episodes to be able to properly follow up the anime. Well i guess the score speaks for itself xD I really enjoyed the anime, it has a lot of things going for him... let me try to organize the good points SY really takes it's time to set the tone of it's world, how everyone had powers, showing how the school works, how the classes and organization of the groups works being rather "slow" in the beginning which i really didn't mind at all we got to know each character because of that.. but even during the 'slow' part we already had mysteries being throw at us what happen to the kids that went missing? there's something weird happening around here etc. Then on episode 4 we have the False Minoshiro explaining a LOT explaining those images from the start of the anime, making sense on how that 'new world' xD was connected with ours.. things start to get interesting there. The time skips where also another part of sy identity, showing the growth of the main characters and how they develop step by step while showing us more of the society they live and so on ~ Another interesting feature imo was how the main plot developed being almost unnoticed during all the separated plots and events that happen on each different time moments of the anime. I didn't quite like squealer since the first time he appeared, and it was pretty obvious they were planning something the second time they appeared, when he manipulated them into attacking another colony and showed the queen totally dominated.. at the time everyone thought "if they did that with their queen why wouldn't they do it with their 'gods'" That takes us to the final arc, where there were some possible 'plot holes' .. but they are somewhat explainable.. There were 2 main problems, that everyone probably already talked about.. 1st how the hell did they managed to 'imprison'/keep maria and mamoru? and force/wait(?) them to have a kid and them dispose of them? That wasn't explained at all, and it surprised me that Saki didn't ask squealer later. Ofc we watch the anime watching saki's perspective all the time.. so we wouldn't be able to see what happened or how it happened. It's totally possible that they offered shelter and later betrayed them, but we'll never know. 2nd was how maria's daughter was able to defeat that army before without suffering the "karma punishment" thing. Kiroumaru say that she got their weapons only and that they fight without it.. guess it makes sense, but it could've been clear imo. I think those 2 points could've been better dealt with but i don't think they are plot holes. Answering the bonus question, yeah that final was awesome... all of it... squealer having the ultimate punishment... satoru going against the law and finding out the truth... we knew they were trying to replace the humans, we knew they saw themselves as equals and that they were smart etc... but to know that they were decedents of the powerless humans that were fking genetic modified into a different species so they could be killed and kept under control by the cantus.. that was brutal to say the least... It gives you a lot to think One last note about the anime was the ost and visuals that are quite unique and awesome ~ I really liked the first ed too Now owarimonogatari second season ~ We had Mayoi Hell, Hitagi Rendezvous and Ougi Dark each one with it own OP ~ Gotta love that special care for each arc even if they are 2 episodes long Well owarimonogatari second season kept the same level of details, interactions in the background, tropes, variety of art styles and references we love about the series~ At this points is more than safe to say they've mastered it by now xD Mayoi Hell was pretty nice, we got to know a little more about Tadatsuru that I kinda forgot existed xD also we managed to revive Hachikuji \o/ her interactions with bararagui-san , ops Tsure Kamimashita ~ xD Then Hitagi Rendezvous where we had a lovely date with Hitagi and a prelude of the next episode also pretty funny how Tsukihi treats ononoki as a doll haha In Ougi Dark we got back to more story and the true development on araragui when he learns to help himself (aka ougi) It was nice i remember having 2 options for ougi either the 'darkness' or being somehow connected to araragi, but i wasn't sure how.. her chat with Thikihi on the bicycle was pretty cool too xD Not much to say.. the series is really good and the execution and style that Shaft gave to the adaptation made it a unique anime franchise. About the bonus question, I think we had a spoil before in Hanamonogatari that's further in the future and that never really impacted much. Although this being the end of the main arc it might influence more I'll watch the movies soon and even knowing the results I think they will be great xD Too much to talk at once xD Might've forgot something |
Oct 19, 2018 7:14 PM
#122
Harus said: PhKay said: looks like you had a great time with anime in the past couple of days giving away 9s for SY and Owari 2nd ^^ Final thoughts on both shows? Bonus question for SY: back then it won my survey for Best Ending in Anime. Can you understand why? ;) bonus question for Owari 2nd: Monogatari was always non-chronological but now that you know the ultimate ending of the main arc, do you think it will have an impact on future seasons when we will probably go back in time again? ^^ Great times indeed ~ When you watch good animes like those it makes you wonder why do I sometimes waste my time on 'meh' animes xD that being said I'll really focus on my ptw list for this next months. Let's start with Shinsekai no Yori ~ I was around episode 10 when i had a huge hiatus, so i really had to do a catch up. Good thing I had all episodes saved so I did a quick recap passing by quickly on the episodes to be able to properly follow up the anime. Well i guess the score speaks for itself xD I really enjoyed the anime, it has a lot of things going for him... let me try to organize the good points SY really takes it's time to set the tone of it's world, how everyone had powers, showing how the school works, how the classes and organization of the groups works being rather "slow" in the beginning which i really didn't mind at all we got to know each character because of that.. but even during the 'slow' part we already had mysteries being throw at us what happen to the kids that went missing? there's something weird happening around here etc. Then on episode 4 we have the False Minoshiro explaining a LOT explaining those images from the start of the anime, making sense on how that 'new world' xD was connected with ours.. things start to get interesting there. The time skips where also another part of sy identity, showing the growth of the main characters and how they develop step by step while showing us more of the society they live and so on ~ Another interesting feature imo was how the main plot developed being almost unnoticed during all the separated plots and events that happen on each different time moments of the anime. I didn't quite like squealer since the first time he appeared, and it was pretty obvious they were planning something the second time they appeared, when he manipulated them into attacking another colony and showed the queen totally dominated.. at the time everyone thought "if they did that with their queen why wouldn't they do it with their 'gods'" That takes us to the final arc, where there were some possible 'plot holes' .. but they are somewhat explainable.. There were 2 main problems, that everyone probably already talked about.. 1st how the hell did they managed to 'imprison'/keep maria and mamoru? and force/wait(?) them to have a kid and them dispose of them? That wasn't explained at all, and it surprised me that Saki didn't ask squealer later. Ofc we watch the anime watching saki's perspective all the time.. so we wouldn't be able to see what happened or how it happened. It's totally possible that they offered shelter and later betrayed them, but we'll never know. 2nd was how maria's daughter was able to defeat that army before without suffering the "karma punishment" thing. Kiroumaru say that she got their weapons only and that they fight without it.. guess it makes sense, but it could've been clear imo. I think those 2 points could've been better dealt with but i don't think they are plot holes. Answering the bonus question, yeah that final was awesome... all of it... squealer having the ultimate punishment... satoru going against the law and finding out the truth... we knew they were trying to replace the humans, we knew they saw themselves as equals and that they were smart etc... but to know that they were decedents of the powerless humans that were fking genetic modified into a different species so they could be killed and kept under control by the cantus.. that was brutal to say the least... It gives you a lot to think One last note about the anime was the ost and visuals that are quite unique and awesome ~ I really liked the first ed too Now owarimonogatari second season ~ We had Mayoi Hell, Hitagi Rendezvous and Ougi Dark each one with it own OP ~ Gotta love that special care for each arc even if they are 2 episodes long Well owarimonogatari second season kept the same level of details, interactions in the background, tropes, variety of art styles and references we love about the series~ At this points is more than safe to say they've mastered it by now xD Mayoi Hell was pretty nice, we got to know a little more about Tadatsuru that I kinda forgot existed xD also we managed to revive Hachikuji \o/ her interactions with bararagui-san , ops Tsure Kamimashita ~ xD Then Hitagi Rendezvous where we had a lovely date with Hitagi and a prelude of the next episode also pretty funny how Tsukihi treats ononoki as a doll haha In Ougi Dark we got back to more story and the true development on araragui when he learns to help himself (aka ougi) It was nice i remember having 2 options for ougi either the 'darkness' or being somehow connected to araragi, but i wasn't sure how.. her chat with Thikihi on the bicycle was pretty cool too xD Not much to say.. the series is really good and the execution and style that Shaft gave to the adaptation made it a unique anime franchise. About the bonus question, I think we had a spoil before in Hanamonogatari that's further in the future and that never really impacted much. Although this being the end of the main arc it might influence more I'll watch the movies soon and even knowing the results I think they will be great xD Too much to talk at once xD Might've forgot something oh i think i can clear up at least SY problem 2! ^^ Maria´s daughter was raised by Squealer after killing Maria and Mamoru, therefore she identifies as a monster rat rather than a human after getting raised and brainwashed by Squealer all her life. Therefore the death feedback isn´t working when she kills HUMANS. Saki realises this late in the series and that is what brings her down. Upon learning this fact from Saki, Kiroumaru disguises as a human and sacrifices himself. Maria´s daughter dies from death feedback after realising she killed a MONSTER RAT aka a person of her kind. The trigger for death feedback therefore seems to be mentally, not actual race. Problem 1 is harder and i can only speculate. My guess is that Maria and Mamoru still trusted Squealer...or they had no choice as they fled from the authorities and Squealer offered shelter. Even though Mamoru is weak i still don´t think monster rats could deal with two psychics in a battle. My guess is they were killed in their sleep or right after Maria gave birth (they probably could handle Mamoru alone). I don´t think there is any chance they can force Maria and Mamoru into having sex so after hearing that letter Maria writes to Saki where she talks about how they could not have kids anyways since they are both girls, i would say she formed a duty pair with Mamoru. He at least loved her for real and he also was the only person to find comfort in in the first place. It is also possible she got pregnant on purpose, feeling that it is a matter of time until the authorities catch and kill them. Maybe she wanted Mamoru to live on through his child. We can speculate a lot as we never get to see their tragic end at all. We never know the circumstances they spent their last year in. so after all, would you say Squealer is a true villain or are his actions justified or at least understandable? |
PhKayOct 19, 2018 7:30 PM
Oct 20, 2018 4:09 PM
#123
PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: looks like you had a great time with anime in the past couple of days giving away 9s for SY and Owari 2nd ^^ Final thoughts on both shows? Bonus question for SY: back then it won my survey for Best Ending in Anime. Can you understand why? ;) bonus question for Owari 2nd: Monogatari was always non-chronological but now that you know the ultimate ending of the main arc, do you think it will have an impact on future seasons when we will probably go back in time again? ^^ Great times indeed ~ When you watch good animes like those it makes you wonder why do I sometimes waste my time on 'meh' animes xD that being said I'll really focus on my ptw list for this next months. Let's start with Shinsekai no Yori ~ I was around episode 10 when i had a huge hiatus, so i really had to do a catch up. Good thing I had all episodes saved so I did a quick recap passing by quickly on the episodes to be able to properly follow up the anime. Well i guess the score speaks for itself xD I really enjoyed the anime, it has a lot of things going for him... let me try to organize the good points SY really takes it's time to set the tone of it's world, how everyone had powers, showing how the school works, how the classes and organization of the groups works being rather "slow" in the beginning which i really didn't mind at all we got to know each character because of that.. but even during the 'slow' part we already had mysteries being throw at us what happen to the kids that went missing? there's something weird happening around here etc. Then on episode 4 we have the False Minoshiro explaining a LOT explaining those images from the start of the anime, making sense on how that 'new world' xD was connected with ours.. things start to get interesting there. The time skips where also another part of sy identity, showing the growth of the main characters and how they develop step by step while showing us more of the society they live and so on ~ Another interesting feature imo was how the main plot developed being almost unnoticed during all the separated plots and events that happen on each different time moments of the anime. I didn't quite like squealer since the first time he appeared, and it was pretty obvious they were planning something the second time they appeared, when he manipulated them into attacking another colony and showed the queen totally dominated.. at the time everyone thought "if they did that with their queen why wouldn't they do it with their 'gods'" That takes us to the final arc, where there were some possible 'plot holes' .. but they are somewhat explainable.. There were 2 main problems, that everyone probably already talked about.. 1st how the hell did they managed to 'imprison'/keep maria and mamoru? and force/wait(?) them to have a kid and them dispose of them? That wasn't explained at all, and it surprised me that Saki didn't ask squealer later. Ofc we watch the anime watching saki's perspective all the time.. so we wouldn't be able to see what happened or how it happened. It's totally possible that they offered shelter and later betrayed them, but we'll never know. 2nd was how maria's daughter was able to defeat that army before without suffering the "karma punishment" thing. Kiroumaru say that she got their weapons only and that they fight without it.. guess it makes sense, but it could've been clear imo. I think those 2 points could've been better dealt with but i don't think they are plot holes. Answering the bonus question, yeah that final was awesome... all of it... squealer having the ultimate punishment... satoru going against the law and finding out the truth... we knew they were trying to replace the humans, we knew they saw themselves as equals and that they were smart etc... but to know that they were decedents of the powerless humans that were fking genetic modified into a different species so they could be killed and kept under control by the cantus.. that was brutal to say the least... It gives you a lot to think One last note about the anime was the ost and visuals that are quite unique and awesome ~ I really liked the first ed too Now owarimonogatari second season ~ We had Mayoi Hell, Hitagi Rendezvous and Ougi Dark each one with it own OP ~ Gotta love that special care for each arc even if they are 2 episodes long Well owarimonogatari second season kept the same level of details, interactions in the background, tropes, variety of art styles and references we love about the series~ At this points is more than safe to say they've mastered it by now xD Mayoi Hell was pretty nice, we got to know a little more about Tadatsuru that I kinda forgot existed xD also we managed to revive Hachikuji \o/ her interactions with bararagui-san , ops Tsure Kamimashita ~ xD Then Hitagi Rendezvous where we had a lovely date with Hitagi and a prelude of the next episode also pretty funny how Tsukihi treats ononoki as a doll haha In Ougi Dark we got back to more story and the true development on araragui when he learns to help himself (aka ougi) It was nice i remember having 2 options for ougi either the 'darkness' or being somehow connected to araragi, but i wasn't sure how.. her chat with Thikihi on the bicycle was pretty cool too xD Not much to say.. the series is really good and the execution and style that Shaft gave to the adaptation made it a unique anime franchise. About the bonus question, I think we had a spoil before in Hanamonogatari that's further in the future and that never really impacted much. Although this being the end of the main arc it might influence more I'll watch the movies soon and even knowing the results I think they will be great xD Too much to talk at once xD Might've forgot something oh i think i can clear up at least SY problem 2! ^^ Maria´s daughter was raised by Squealer after killing Maria and Mamoru, therefore she identifies as a monster rat rather than a human after getting raised and brainwashed by Squealer all her life. Therefore the death feedback isn´t working when she kills HUMANS. Saki realises this late in the series and that is what brings her down. Upon learning this fact from Saki, Kiroumaru disguises as a human and sacrifices himself. Maria´s daughter dies from death feedback after realising she killed a MONSTER RAT aka a person of her kind. The trigger for death feedback therefore seems to be mentally, not actual race. Problem 1 is harder and i can only speculate. My guess is that Maria and Mamoru still trusted Squealer...or they had no choice as they fled from the authorities and Squealer offered shelter. Even though Mamoru is weak i still don´t think monster rats could deal with two psychics in a battle. My guess is they were killed in their sleep or right after Maria gave birth (they probably could handle Mamoru alone). I don´t think there is any chance they can force Maria and Mamoru into having sex so after hearing that letter Maria writes to Saki where she talks about how they could not have kids anyways since they are both girls, i would say she formed a duty pair with Mamoru. He at least loved her for real and he also was the only person to find comfort in in the first place. It is also possible she got pregnant on purpose, feeling that it is a matter of time until the authorities catch and kill them. Maybe she wanted Mamoru to live on through his child. We can speculate a lot as we never get to see their tragic end at all. We never know the circumstances they spent their last year in. so after all, would you say Squealer is a true villain or are his actions justified or at least understandable? I understood that, i know she wasn't affected by the death feedback on humans since she doesn't see herself as one. The problem is that during the meting of the council when they are talking about how Kiromaru army was obliterated it was pretty much implied that they were destroyed by a one-sided war and that was done by someone with Cantus power, but Maria's daughter couldn't do it since she would be affected by the feedback.. they don't explain that well.. the only hint we have was when kiroumaru tells Saki and Satoru that they had they weapons stolen and they fight with their claws. I feel like this could've been better explained. Btw another twisted thing about the bakenezumi is how the kanji they chose for bake is the same as human but upside down... little details that make the whole twist even more twisted xD I get that is possible for them to fall for squealer hospitality and eventually have a kid since Mamoru always loved Maria and Maria cares for him. Still why would they decide to have a kid so soon? Guess we'll never know xD I think it's fine that the show didn't show us... make us wonder what might've happened.. In the end the problem to me was Why Saki didn't asked him when she had the chance? Squealer is the antagonist, not sure I can call him the true villain due to the circumstances We know they acquired the knowledge from the False Minoshiro and they were smart enough to later figure out they were actually humans and were demoted to be a dominated/slaved species.. Truth is they lived in fear of the eminent doom that could happen if they ever displeased the 'gods'. So I think his actions were understandable, the position they were put in is just unfair.. not sure about justified since the ones that caused that aren't the ones that are current living.. that's something that happened centuries ago, so ofc that his course of action isn't the best.. it's like justifying genocide because you were enslaved. 2 wrongs don't make one right imo I know it's my branch but what do you think about the same question? xD |
Oct 20, 2018 4:33 PM
#124
Harus said: PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: looks like you had a great time with anime in the past couple of days giving away 9s for SY and Owari 2nd ^^ Final thoughts on both shows? Bonus question for SY: back then it won my survey for Best Ending in Anime. Can you understand why? ;) bonus question for Owari 2nd: Monogatari was always non-chronological but now that you know the ultimate ending of the main arc, do you think it will have an impact on future seasons when we will probably go back in time again? ^^ Great times indeed ~ When you watch good animes like those it makes you wonder why do I sometimes waste my time on 'meh' animes xD that being said I'll really focus on my ptw list for this next months. Let's start with Shinsekai no Yori ~ I was around episode 10 when i had a huge hiatus, so i really had to do a catch up. Good thing I had all episodes saved so I did a quick recap passing by quickly on the episodes to be able to properly follow up the anime. Well i guess the score speaks for itself xD I really enjoyed the anime, it has a lot of things going for him... let me try to organize the good points SY really takes it's time to set the tone of it's world, how everyone had powers, showing how the school works, how the classes and organization of the groups works being rather "slow" in the beginning which i really didn't mind at all we got to know each character because of that.. but even during the 'slow' part we already had mysteries being throw at us what happen to the kids that went missing? there's something weird happening around here etc. Then on episode 4 we have the False Minoshiro explaining a LOT explaining those images from the start of the anime, making sense on how that 'new world' xD was connected with ours.. things start to get interesting there. The time skips where also another part of sy identity, showing the growth of the main characters and how they develop step by step while showing us more of the society they live and so on ~ Another interesting feature imo was how the main plot developed being almost unnoticed during all the separated plots and events that happen on each different time moments of the anime. I didn't quite like squealer since the first time he appeared, and it was pretty obvious they were planning something the second time they appeared, when he manipulated them into attacking another colony and showed the queen totally dominated.. at the time everyone thought "if they did that with their queen why wouldn't they do it with their 'gods'" That takes us to the final arc, where there were some possible 'plot holes' .. but they are somewhat explainable.. There were 2 main problems, that everyone probably already talked about.. 1st how the hell did they managed to 'imprison'/keep maria and mamoru? and force/wait(?) them to have a kid and them dispose of them? That wasn't explained at all, and it surprised me that Saki didn't ask squealer later. Ofc we watch the anime watching saki's perspective all the time.. so we wouldn't be able to see what happened or how it happened. It's totally possible that they offered shelter and later betrayed them, but we'll never know. 2nd was how maria's daughter was able to defeat that army before without suffering the "karma punishment" thing. Kiroumaru say that she got their weapons only and that they fight without it.. guess it makes sense, but it could've been clear imo. I think those 2 points could've been better dealt with but i don't think they are plot holes. Answering the bonus question, yeah that final was awesome... all of it... squealer having the ultimate punishment... satoru going against the law and finding out the truth... we knew they were trying to replace the humans, we knew they saw themselves as equals and that they were smart etc... but to know that they were decedents of the powerless humans that were fking genetic modified into a different species so they could be killed and kept under control by the cantus.. that was brutal to say the least... It gives you a lot to think One last note about the anime was the ost and visuals that are quite unique and awesome ~ I really liked the first ed too Now owarimonogatari second season ~ We had Mayoi Hell, Hitagi Rendezvous and Ougi Dark each one with it own OP ~ Gotta love that special care for each arc even if they are 2 episodes long Well owarimonogatari second season kept the same level of details, interactions in the background, tropes, variety of art styles and references we love about the series~ At this points is more than safe to say they've mastered it by now xD Mayoi Hell was pretty nice, we got to know a little more about Tadatsuru that I kinda forgot existed xD also we managed to revive Hachikuji \o/ her interactions with bararagui-san , ops Tsure Kamimashita ~ xD Then Hitagi Rendezvous where we had a lovely date with Hitagi and a prelude of the next episode also pretty funny how Tsukihi treats ononoki as a doll haha In Ougi Dark we got back to more story and the true development on araragui when he learns to help himself (aka ougi) It was nice i remember having 2 options for ougi either the 'darkness' or being somehow connected to araragi, but i wasn't sure how.. her chat with Thikihi on the bicycle was pretty cool too xD Not much to say.. the series is really good and the execution and style that Shaft gave to the adaptation made it a unique anime franchise. About the bonus question, I think we had a spoil before in Hanamonogatari that's further in the future and that never really impacted much. Although this being the end of the main arc it might influence more I'll watch the movies soon and even knowing the results I think they will be great xD Too much to talk at once xD Might've forgot something oh i think i can clear up at least SY problem 2! ^^ Maria´s daughter was raised by Squealer after killing Maria and Mamoru, therefore she identifies as a monster rat rather than a human after getting raised and brainwashed by Squealer all her life. Therefore the death feedback isn´t working when she kills HUMANS. Saki realises this late in the series and that is what brings her down. Upon learning this fact from Saki, Kiroumaru disguises as a human and sacrifices himself. Maria´s daughter dies from death feedback after realising she killed a MONSTER RAT aka a person of her kind. The trigger for death feedback therefore seems to be mentally, not actual race. Problem 1 is harder and i can only speculate. My guess is that Maria and Mamoru still trusted Squealer...or they had no choice as they fled from the authorities and Squealer offered shelter. Even though Mamoru is weak i still don´t think monster rats could deal with two psychics in a battle. My guess is they were killed in their sleep or right after Maria gave birth (they probably could handle Mamoru alone). I don´t think there is any chance they can force Maria and Mamoru into having sex so after hearing that letter Maria writes to Saki where she talks about how they could not have kids anyways since they are both girls, i would say she formed a duty pair with Mamoru. He at least loved her for real and he also was the only person to find comfort in in the first place. It is also possible she got pregnant on purpose, feeling that it is a matter of time until the authorities catch and kill them. Maybe she wanted Mamoru to live on through his child. We can speculate a lot as we never get to see their tragic end at all. We never know the circumstances they spent their last year in. so after all, would you say Squealer is a true villain or are his actions justified or at least understandable? I understood that, i know she wasn't affected by the death feedback on humans since she doesn't see herself as one. The problem is that during the meting of the council when they are talking about how Kiromaru army was obliterated it was pretty much implied that they were destroyed by a one-sided war and that was done by someone with Cantus power, but Maria's daughter couldn't do it since she would be affected by the feedback.. they don't explain that well.. the only hint we have was when kiroumaru tells Saki and Satoru that they had they weapons stolen and they fight with their claws. I feel like this could've been better explained. Btw another twisted thing about the bakenezumi is how the kanji they chose for bake is the same as human but upside down... little details that make the whole twist even more twisted xD I get that is possible for them to fall for squealer hospitality and eventually have a kid since Mamoru always loved Maria and Maria cares for him. Still why would they decide to have a kid so soon? Guess we'll never know xD I think it's fine that the show didn't show us... make us wonder what might've happened.. In the end the problem to me was Why Saki didn't asked him when she had the chance? Squealer is the antagonist, not sure I can call him the true villain due to the circumstances We know they acquired the knowledge from the False Minoshiro and they were smart enough to later figure out they were actually humans and were demoted to be a dominated/slaved species.. Truth is they lived in fear of the eminent doom that could happen if they ever displeased the 'gods'. So I think his actions were understandable, the position they were put in is just unfair.. not sure about justified since the ones that caused that aren't the ones that are current living.. that's something that happened centuries ago, so ofc that his course of action isn't the best.. it's like justifying genocide because you were enslaved. 2 wrongs don't make one right imo I know it's my branch but what do you think about the same question? xD I think he wanted to liberate his whole species from even more decades and centuries of this lifestyle totally dependant on the "gods" and given how few it actually takes to control a whole bunch of monster rats, the only way he saw was wiping them of the face of the earth entirely. It is hard to tell at which point he started to develop such extreme views but in the world of Shinsekai yori you could argue the human rulers aren´t less extreme at all, maybe even the opposite. Everybody in this show including the protags which are portrayed as totally normal and likeable kill monster rats without hesitation and regret. It´s no different from us squashing bugs. If i´m a species of equal intelligence and smart enough to understand the big picture of what is done to my entire kind over a long, long time and get treated like that, i would probably develop such ideas too. It´s true the people he fights and kills are innocent, but so are 99% of monster rats who get killed for even the slightest "mistake", even those who are unaware of the history and actually worship the gods wholeheartedly, believing in this lie. So to me, Squealer is a villain manmade by his enemies. And he certainly is way less villainous than everybody on the human side trying to keep the status quo going despite knowing the truth about history. In this regard it is fitting that the court gave him punishment that is worse than what he planned to do. Saki giving him a merciful death after learning the truth is a brilliant scene. She more or less makes peace with him despite all his actions which including the killing of two of her closest friends. She still understand how EVERYBODY could turn into Squealer under such circumstances. Hypothetical question: if you were a "god" in this world and you must wipe out either the humans or the monster rats entirely, who would you choose? And i know i would wipe out the humans ;) The percentage of assholes on their side seems to be much higher haha |
Oct 21, 2018 4:54 PM
#125
Hi Harus! I would have a lot of questions to ask you actually, starting from Shinsekai Yori and monogatari... For now I won't ask about these ones, not until finish reading your conversation with PhKay... So, you have watched only the first kizu movie, is it right? What is your impression? (Please in replying consider I still have to finish Second Season (I'm at Koimonogatari) and have watched only the first Kizu movie too!) What are your thoughts on Goblin slayer so far? What other anime from this season do you plan to watch? |
Oct 21, 2018 7:06 PM
#126
Como não rir disso? |
The battle is over. Show respect for the fallen who fought so bravely. |
Oct 24, 2018 11:22 AM
#127
PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: looks like you had a great time with anime in the past couple of days giving away 9s for SY and Owari 2nd ^^ Final thoughts on both shows? Bonus question for SY: back then it won my survey for Best Ending in Anime. Can you understand why? ;) bonus question for Owari 2nd: Monogatari was always non-chronological but now that you know the ultimate ending of the main arc, do you think it will have an impact on future seasons when we will probably go back in time again? ^^ Great times indeed ~ When you watch good animes like those it makes you wonder why do I sometimes waste my time on 'meh' animes xD that being said I'll really focus on my ptw list for this next months. Let's start with Shinsekai no Yori ~ I was around episode 10 when i had a huge hiatus, so i really had to do a catch up. Good thing I had all episodes saved so I did a quick recap passing by quickly on the episodes to be able to properly follow up the anime. Well i guess the score speaks for itself xD I really enjoyed the anime, it has a lot of things going for him... let me try to organize the good points SY really takes it's time to set the tone of it's world, how everyone had powers, showing how the school works, how the classes and organization of the groups works being rather "slow" in the beginning which i really didn't mind at all we got to know each character because of that.. but even during the 'slow' part we already had mysteries being throw at us what happen to the kids that went missing? there's something weird happening around here etc. Then on episode 4 we have the False Minoshiro explaining a LOT explaining those images from the start of the anime, making sense on how that 'new world' xD was connected with ours.. things start to get interesting there. The time skips where also another part of sy identity, showing the growth of the main characters and how they develop step by step while showing us more of the society they live and so on ~ Another interesting feature imo was how the main plot developed being almost unnoticed during all the separated plots and events that happen on each different time moments of the anime. I didn't quite like squealer since the first time he appeared, and it was pretty obvious they were planning something the second time they appeared, when he manipulated them into attacking another colony and showed the queen totally dominated.. at the time everyone thought "if they did that with their queen why wouldn't they do it with their 'gods'" That takes us to the final arc, where there were some possible 'plot holes' .. but they are somewhat explainable.. There were 2 main problems, that everyone probably already talked about.. 1st how the hell did they managed to 'imprison'/keep maria and mamoru? and force/wait(?) them to have a kid and them dispose of them? That wasn't explained at all, and it surprised me that Saki didn't ask squealer later. Ofc we watch the anime watching saki's perspective all the time.. so we wouldn't be able to see what happened or how it happened. It's totally possible that they offered shelter and later betrayed them, but we'll never know. 2nd was how maria's daughter was able to defeat that army before without suffering the "karma punishment" thing. Kiroumaru say that she got their weapons only and that they fight without it.. guess it makes sense, but it could've been clear imo. I think those 2 points could've been better dealt with but i don't think they are plot holes. Answering the bonus question, yeah that final was awesome... all of it... squealer having the ultimate punishment... satoru going against the law and finding out the truth... we knew they were trying to replace the humans, we knew they saw themselves as equals and that they were smart etc... but to know that they were decedents of the powerless humans that were fking genetic modified into a different species so they could be killed and kept under control by the cantus.. that was brutal to say the least... It gives you a lot to think One last note about the anime was the ost and visuals that are quite unique and awesome ~ I really liked the first ed too Now owarimonogatari second season ~ We had Mayoi Hell, Hitagi Rendezvous and Ougi Dark each one with it own OP ~ Gotta love that special care for each arc even if they are 2 episodes long Well owarimonogatari second season kept the same level of details, interactions in the background, tropes, variety of art styles and references we love about the series~ At this points is more than safe to say they've mastered it by now xD Mayoi Hell was pretty nice, we got to know a little more about Tadatsuru that I kinda forgot existed xD also we managed to revive Hachikuji \o/ her interactions with bararagui-san , ops Tsure Kamimashita ~ xD Then Hitagi Rendezvous where we had a lovely date with Hitagi and a prelude of the next episode also pretty funny how Tsukihi treats ononoki as a doll haha In Ougi Dark we got back to more story and the true development on araragui when he learns to help himself (aka ougi) It was nice i remember having 2 options for ougi either the 'darkness' or being somehow connected to araragi, but i wasn't sure how.. her chat with Thikihi on the bicycle was pretty cool too xD Not much to say.. the series is really good and the execution and style that Shaft gave to the adaptation made it a unique anime franchise. About the bonus question, I think we had a spoil before in Hanamonogatari that's further in the future and that never really impacted much. Although this being the end of the main arc it might influence more I'll watch the movies soon and even knowing the results I think they will be great xD Too much to talk at once xD Might've forgot something oh i think i can clear up at least SY problem 2! ^^ Maria´s daughter was raised by Squealer after killing Maria and Mamoru, therefore she identifies as a monster rat rather than a human after getting raised and brainwashed by Squealer all her life. Therefore the death feedback isn´t working when she kills HUMANS. Saki realises this late in the series and that is what brings her down. Upon learning this fact from Saki, Kiroumaru disguises as a human and sacrifices himself. Maria´s daughter dies from death feedback after realising she killed a MONSTER RAT aka a person of her kind. The trigger for death feedback therefore seems to be mentally, not actual race. Problem 1 is harder and i can only speculate. My guess is that Maria and Mamoru still trusted Squealer...or they had no choice as they fled from the authorities and Squealer offered shelter. Even though Mamoru is weak i still don´t think monster rats could deal with two psychics in a battle. My guess is they were killed in their sleep or right after Maria gave birth (they probably could handle Mamoru alone). I don´t think there is any chance they can force Maria and Mamoru into having sex so after hearing that letter Maria writes to Saki where she talks about how they could not have kids anyways since they are both girls, i would say she formed a duty pair with Mamoru. He at least loved her for real and he also was the only person to find comfort in in the first place. It is also possible she got pregnant on purpose, feeling that it is a matter of time until the authorities catch and kill them. Maybe she wanted Mamoru to live on through his child. We can speculate a lot as we never get to see their tragic end at all. We never know the circumstances they spent their last year in. so after all, would you say Squealer is a true villain or are his actions justified or at least understandable? I understood that, i know she wasn't affected by the death feedback on humans since she doesn't see herself as one. The problem is that during the meting of the council when they are talking about how Kiromaru army was obliterated it was pretty much implied that they were destroyed by a one-sided war and that was done by someone with Cantus power, but Maria's daughter couldn't do it since she would be affected by the feedback.. they don't explain that well.. the only hint we have was when kiroumaru tells Saki and Satoru that they had they weapons stolen and they fight with their claws. I feel like this could've been better explained. Btw another twisted thing about the bakenezumi is how the kanji they chose for bake is the same as human but upside down... little details that make the whole twist even more twisted xD I get that is possible for them to fall for squealer hospitality and eventually have a kid since Mamoru always loved Maria and Maria cares for him. Still why would they decide to have a kid so soon? Guess we'll never know xD I think it's fine that the show didn't show us... make us wonder what might've happened.. In the end the problem to me was Why Saki didn't asked him when she had the chance? Squealer is the antagonist, not sure I can call him the true villain due to the circumstances We know they acquired the knowledge from the False Minoshiro and they were smart enough to later figure out they were actually humans and were demoted to be a dominated/slaved species.. Truth is they lived in fear of the eminent doom that could happen if they ever displeased the 'gods'. So I think his actions were understandable, the position they were put in is just unfair.. not sure about justified since the ones that caused that aren't the ones that are current living.. that's something that happened centuries ago, so ofc that his course of action isn't the best.. it's like justifying genocide because you were enslaved. 2 wrongs don't make one right imo I know it's my branch but what do you think about the same question? xD I think he wanted to liberate his whole species from even more decades and centuries of this lifestyle totally dependant on the "gods" and given how few it actually takes to control a whole bunch of monster rats, the only way he saw was wiping them of the face of the earth entirely. It is hard to tell at which point he started to develop such extreme views but in the world of Shinsekai yori you could argue the human rulers aren´t less extreme at all, maybe even the opposite. Everybody in this show including the protags which are portrayed as totally normal and likeable kill monster rats without hesitation and regret. It´s no different from us squashing bugs. If i´m a species of equal intelligence and smart enough to understand the big picture of what is done to my entire kind over a long, long time and get treated like that, i would probably develop such ideas too. It´s true the people he fights and kills are innocent, but so are 99% of monster rats who get killed for even the slightest "mistake", even those who are unaware of the history and actually worship the gods wholeheartedly, believing in this lie. So to me, Squealer is a villain manmade by his enemies. And he certainly is way less villainous than everybody on the human side trying to keep the status quo going despite knowing the truth about history. In this regard it is fitting that the court gave him punishment that is worse than what he planned to do. Saki giving him a merciful death after learning the truth is a brilliant scene. She more or less makes peace with him despite all his actions which including the killing of two of her closest friends. She still understand how EVERYBODY could turn into Squealer under such circumstances. Hypothetical question: if you were a "god" in this world and you must wipe out either the humans or the monster rats entirely, who would you choose? And i know i would wipe out the humans ;) The percentage of assholes on their side seems to be much higher haha Yep, even the main protagonist that actually are special, since they have "free will" or rather weren't totally brainwashed, kill the Bakenezumi with little regret.. It's something they learn it was 'ok'/'normal' so they killed without any second thought... you can even relate that to slavery some centuries ago, in the context that many just did it because it was 'normal' to the society at the time. Because of that is always hard to judge all humans , they 'slavery' and modification of the bakenezumi happened ages before they were born and none of them are really aware that they were humans, that was forbidden knowledge that Satoru found out in the end and bakenezumi found out with the help of the False minoshiro. So in terms of being 'evil' and being a 'villain' the huge majority of humans were clueless about what was going on, and that they were doing something wrong. The high court even laugh of squealer when he said they were humans too... not even the high council knew (I have my doubts if even Tomiko knew). When you think about it, the average humans where programmed/conditioned to learn and accept that reality being brainwashed and controlled since birth to keep the status quo with huge limitations to reach for more knowledge... being trained to be ignorant towards everything outside their little villages. Squealer did what he saw as the best/only way to free his kind and I agree with you, I think his actions made perfect sense. I just don't see he as a villain because he was almost a hero to his own kind, just a matter of perspective, he was the antagonist since we watched through Saki's point of view. Villain would be someone being evil for the sake of being the bad guy or for some stupid reason, his 'revolution' had a purpose, a meaning behind. What really show if there's evil or not is how people would react once they know the truth, like Saki did... once she learned the whole truth she was able to understand his side and realized that that punishment was wrong ... the beauty of the scene was not only the merciful death but also talking with him. Now for the actual question xD I would have some fun flying around first lol xD Honestly I don't think it matters ... either side would end up having a bad ending If I chose to wipe the humans, the bakenezumi would prosper defying their queens and eventually learning all we know today in terms of technology, could even revert the genetic modifications eventually returning to their human forms but without powers, it would be pretty much the return of 'normality' as we have today.. assuming no new 'god' was born. That means they would become just as much as assholes as humans, start dumb wars killing themselves etc etc If i chose to wipe the bakenezumi well humans wouldn't learn shit and would continue to live on their "fake utopias" waiting until the next "evil spirit" to show up and obliterate them. Well if i MUST exterminate one... flip a coin lol |
Oct 24, 2018 11:47 AM
#128
Akaraed said: Hi Harus! I would have a lot of questions to ask you actually, starting from Shinsekai Yori and monogatari... For now I won't ask about these ones, not until finish reading your conversation with PhKay... So, you have watched only the first kizu movie, is it right? What is your impression? (Please in replying consider I still have to finish Second Season (I'm at Koimonogatari) and have watched only the first Kizu movie too!) What are your thoughts on Goblin slayer so far? What other anime from this season do you plan to watch? Hehehe feel free to jump in the topic xD yes I've watched all 3 now hehe watched the other 2 Sunday ~ I'll keep it spoiler free ( ◡‿◡ ) Story wise is fine, it's showing the very beginning of the monogatari series feel like Araragi is a bit different but that only show us how he changes as the series goes on The animation, in special the action ones are awesome .. first movie there isn't much action but the fire scene was pretty incredible The CG scenes annoyed me a little, but I can say that they were better, less frequent on the following movies. The dialogues and interactions were pretty monogatari like, characteristic of the franchise changing the background, closes, blinking eyes, attention to details etc ~ Overall was a good movie, nothing outstanding but solid. I liked the second and third one better ah the weird "shadow" in the eyes was strange imo, but that's an animation detail. ---- I've heard goblin slayer got a lot of crap because of the first episode and the r* scenes The complication on that was that the series was rated pg 13 or for children or something, now that's a mistake ... they should be more careful since many just go blind (without spoilers and previews) to the anime. About the series I'm liking, it's fun how the guy is only interested in goblins and nothing else.. the world might be ending but if there's no goblins he isn't interested xD So far we are only 3 episodes in, we had a little characterization, understand a little of what's going on in the world, other party members joining.. not much Feel like the animation quality isn't constant and they use a bit too much cg for my taste, but not enough (or bad enough) to be a problem. Still it's an anime that goes by fast, it has a good flow and pacing. I think it has potential depending on how the story develop from now on. I'm currently watching from the season Toaru Majutsu no Index III and Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara only. Pretty much Index for being a much awaited sequel and Irozuku for being a PA Original. That being said I have at least 3 anime on my PTW from this season hehe Seishun Buta Yarou wa Bunny Girl Senpai no Yume wo Minai is from the same guy who wrote Sakurasou and everyone is talking good things about it, so I'll either binge after the season or catch up with it later. Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken, the slime one that everyone is talking about. In general I like fantasy animes and this one is being praised so I might watch it Hinomaruzumou, Sumo, sports fast pace hehe .. I'm in no hurry for this one though |
Oct 24, 2018 11:48 AM
#129
xDD eu tinha visto essa quando falaram do caixa 2 xD Unica coisa que salva essas eleições são os memes viu haha |
Oct 24, 2018 3:17 PM
#130
Uh. So what did DS stand for, once again? |
Oct 24, 2018 4:12 PM
#131
moving on to something obvious ;) How did you like the Kizu trilogy? ^^ With me, you can go full spoiler mode so i guess it makes sense to ask again :p most important question obviously: was it necessary to make Tsubasas boobs even bigger than they already were? ;) poor girl is gonna suffer from back problems sooner than later in her life! Was it necessary to have guts spill out of her body everywhere just because in movies you can do it? -.- |
Oct 24, 2018 6:33 PM
#132
Harus said: Akaraed said: Hi Harus! I would have a lot of questions to ask you actually, starting from Shinsekai Yori and monogatari... For now I won't ask about these ones, not until finish reading your conversation with PhKay... So, you have watched only the first kizu movie, is it right? What is your impression? (Please in replying consider I still have to finish Second Season (I'm at Koimonogatari) and have watched only the first Kizu movie too!) What are your thoughts on Goblin slayer so far? What other anime from this season do you plan to watch? Hehehe feel free to jump in the topic xD yes I've watched all 3 now hehe watched the other 2 Sunday ~ I'll keep it spoiler free ( ◡‿◡ ) Story wise is fine, it's showing the very beginning of the monogatari series feel like Araragi is a bit different but that only show us how he changes as the series goes on The animation, in special the action ones are awesome .. first movie there isn't much action but the fire scene was pretty incredible The CG scenes annoyed me a little, but I can say that they were better, less frequent on the following movies. The dialogues and interactions were pretty monogatari like, characteristic of the franchise changing the background, closes, blinking eyes, attention to details etc ~ Overall was a good movie, nothing outstanding but solid. I liked the second and third one better ah the weird "shadow" in the eyes was strange imo, but that's an animation detail. ---- I've heard goblin slayer got a lot of crap because of the first episode and the r* scenes The complication on that was that the series was rated pg 13 or for children or something, now that's a mistake ... they should be more careful since many just go blind (without spoilers and previews) to the anime. About the series I'm liking, it's fun how the guy is only interested in goblins and nothing else.. the world might be ending but if there's no goblins he isn't interested xD So far we are only 3 episodes in, we had a little characterization, understand a little of what's going on in the world, other party members joining.. not much Feel like the animation quality isn't constant and they use a bit too much cg for my taste, but not enough (or bad enough) to be a problem. Still it's an anime that goes by fast, it has a good flow and pacing. I think it has potential depending on how the story develop from now on. I'm currently watching from the season Toaru Majutsu no Index III and Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara only. Pretty much Index for being a much awaited sequel and Irozuku for being a PA Original. That being said I have at least 3 anime on my PTW from this season hehe Seishun Buta Yarou wa Bunny Girl Senpai no Yume wo Minai is from the same guy who wrote Sakurasou and everyone is talking good things about it, so I'll either binge after the season or catch up with it later. Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken, the slime one that everyone is talking about. In general I like fantasy animes and this one is being praised so I might watch it Hinomaruzumou, Sumo, sports fast pace hehe .. I'm in no hurry for this one though Ok, I got it about Kizu I, I've not much to add as for now. Only that the drawing style is sooooo cool. Goblin Slayer: Overall I agree... I have not high expectations, but it could be good. There are small things that are starting to piss me off a bit, like the elfic Tolkien-copy-bread (was it necessary?) or the mc who cares only about goblins... it's funny at times, but I hope it's not supposed to be cooly. The cgi was not a problem (only in the ED). This season I'll also be watching the slime one, Irozuku, and Seishun Buta Yarou (I have high expectations for this one), toghether with a lot of other things. |
Oct 25, 2018 7:40 PM
#133
JohnDowson said: Uh. So what did DS stand for, once again? Dragon Soul Digimon Slayer Different Spirit Distinctive Series Developers System Dimension Save Dynamic Statue Disastrous Season Demagogy Symbol xD There was never a real meaning to it tbh I had to use the DS before on an acc on 3ds and since 'Harus' was taken I added the DS at the end. Same happened here when I create the account, Harus was taken at the time so I had to improvise and added the DS... After a while I discovered I could claim other users nicknames if they were inactive for a long time, so I was able to change it to what it is today. |
Oct 27, 2018 4:22 PM
#134
PhKay said: moving on to something obvious ;) How did you like the Kizu trilogy? ^^ With me, you can go full spoiler mode so i guess it makes sense to ask again :p most important question obviously: was it necessary to make Tsubasas boobs even bigger than they already were? ;) poor girl is gonna suffer from back problems sooner than later in her life! Was it necessary to have guts spill out of her body everywhere just because in movies you can do it? -.- Alright Kizu movies time xD Out off the bat I think it's fair to praise the movie's overall animation quality. It has some outstanding moments specially on some of the action parts, like the fights. The CG was a bit off, but it got better during the movies (it was pretty distracting on the first one) As I said before the whole tone and ambient of the movie where pretty monogatari like, just with the extra budge it was a real nice trip ~ I was looking forward for this trilogy for a long time (even though it took me quite a while to watch it xD) for 2 reasons One for being the very beginning of the series and for talking more about Shinobu. At first we notice a reaaaaaally different Araragi, it was really clear to me since I just finished owarimonogatari s2.. In the movie he is actually portraited as someone normal with no experience on the "oddities" and that was well done.. he was terrified by Kiss shot dismembered on the floor covered in blood .. took like 15 minutes for him to calm down and decide to do something xD He almost torturing himself on fire was cool too xD..because of the animation haha I also liked how hanekawa was important for that first arc, she was indeed the 'first' to become close to araragi (aside from his sisters.. that unfortunately didn't appeared) Considering everything that happened I can say that it was a bit unfair for her not ending with him. Don't get me wrong Hitagi is good too.. but Hanekawa seems somewhat more fitting.. or not dunno haha tough choice. The fights were awesome, I think that was the first time we saw Oshino moving like that, he seems really strong actually if compared to the series when he never does much. The fights were pretty entertaining not only for the fight itself but for the comic reliefs , like araragi pulling his new regenerated arm to grow and other exaggerations like that. The whole last fight him against Kiss shot was a troll fight hahaha full of non sense moments. Around the 3rd movie I've noticed that there were some pretty awesome possibilities for screen shoots to use as background The 3rd movie was the more serious one imo... the talk about how she was bored and decided to help araragi to become human again... His internal conflict once he saw she eating a human and finding out that he would had to do the same in order to survive (He quickly understood why kiss shot's first servant killed himself)... How in the end everyone losses... and, in a way, how humiliating was the end of Kiss shot... making sense on why she hated Oshino meme in the beginning of bakemonogatari. What else.. hmmm Guess that's it , I really liked .. haven't score it yet probably an 8-9 About the actual questions Nope it wasn't necessary xD.. but yah know... Monogatari can't exist without fan service lol Although I'll say the hanekawa boobs massage scene was a bit too much ... like I would feel uncomfortable watching it on a theater I think xD Also not necessary, but the trilogy was a whole was pretty gore-ish .. they love to exaggerate Also they could be just leashing out.. since it's ok to do in movies and many times they need to hold back on the tv series. |
Oct 29, 2018 8:41 AM
#135
Akaraed said: Harus said: Akaraed said: Hi Harus! I would have a lot of questions to ask you actually, starting from Shinsekai Yori and monogatari... For now I won't ask about these ones, not until finish reading your conversation with PhKay... So, you have watched only the first kizu movie, is it right? What is your impression? (Please in replying consider I still have to finish Second Season (I'm at Koimonogatari) and have watched only the first Kizu movie too!) What are your thoughts on Goblin slayer so far? What other anime from this season do you plan to watch? Hehehe feel free to jump in the topic xD yes I've watched all 3 now hehe watched the other 2 Sunday ~ I'll keep it spoiler free ( ◡‿◡ ) Story wise is fine, it's showing the very beginning of the monogatari series feel like Araragi is a bit different but that only show us how he changes as the series goes on The animation, in special the action ones are awesome .. first movie there isn't much action but the fire scene was pretty incredible The CG scenes annoyed me a little, but I can say that they were better, less frequent on the following movies. The dialogues and interactions were pretty monogatari like, characteristic of the franchise changing the background, closes, blinking eyes, attention to details etc ~ Overall was a good movie, nothing outstanding but solid. I liked the second and third one better ah the weird "shadow" in the eyes was strange imo, but that's an animation detail. ---- I've heard goblin slayer got a lot of crap because of the first episode and the r* scenes The complication on that was that the series was rated pg 13 or for children or something, now that's a mistake ... they should be more careful since many just go blind (without spoilers and previews) to the anime. About the series I'm liking, it's fun how the guy is only interested in goblins and nothing else.. the world might be ending but if there's no goblins he isn't interested xD So far we are only 3 episodes in, we had a little characterization, understand a little of what's going on in the world, other party members joining.. not much Feel like the animation quality isn't constant and they use a bit too much cg for my taste, but not enough (or bad enough) to be a problem. Still it's an anime that goes by fast, it has a good flow and pacing. I think it has potential depending on how the story develop from now on. I'm currently watching from the season Toaru Majutsu no Index III and Irozuku Sekai no Ashita kara only. Pretty much Index for being a much awaited sequel and Irozuku for being a PA Original. That being said I have at least 3 anime on my PTW from this season hehe Seishun Buta Yarou wa Bunny Girl Senpai no Yume wo Minai is from the same guy who wrote Sakurasou and everyone is talking good things about it, so I'll either binge after the season or catch up with it later. Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken, the slime one that everyone is talking about. In general I like fantasy animes and this one is being praised so I might watch it Hinomaruzumou, Sumo, sports fast pace hehe .. I'm in no hurry for this one though Ok, I got it about Kizu I, I've not much to add as for now. Only that the drawing style is sooooo cool. Goblin Slayer: Overall I agree... I have not high expectations, but it could be good. There are small things that are starting to piss me off a bit, like the elfic Tolkien-copy-bread (was it necessary?) or the mc who cares only about goblins... it's funny at times, but I hope it's not supposed to be cooly. The cgi was not a problem (only in the ED). This season I'll also be watching the slime one, Irozuku, and Seishun Buta Yarou (I have high expectations for this one), toghether with a lot of other things. I feel like it gets even better on the following movies xD I think that elf bread is something rather common on rpg-ish , medieval fantasy scenarios You are watching pretty much same as me + the ones I want to watch hehe |
Oct 29, 2018 1:40 PM
#136
Since Hajime no Ippo is one of your favorite Manga, do you plan to watch Hajime no Ippo Rising anytime soon? And do you remove Anime from your PTW list occasionally, or just add stuff there that you eventually forgot that you wanted to watch? |
Oct 30, 2018 5:55 PM
#137
Harus said: PhKay said: moving on to something obvious ;) How did you like the Kizu trilogy? ^^ With me, you can go full spoiler mode so i guess it makes sense to ask again :p most important question obviously: was it necessary to make Tsubasas boobs even bigger than they already were? ;) poor girl is gonna suffer from back problems sooner than later in her life! Was it necessary to have guts spill out of her body everywhere just because in movies you can do it? -.- Alright Kizu movies time xD Out off the bat I think it's fair to praise the movie's overall animation quality. It has some outstanding moments specially on some of the action parts, like the fights. The CG was a bit off, but it got better during the movies (it was pretty distracting on the first one) As I said before the whole tone and ambient of the movie where pretty monogatari like, just with the extra budge it was a real nice trip ~ I was looking forward for this trilogy for a long time (even though it took me quite a while to watch it xD) for 2 reasons One for being the very beginning of the series and for talking more about Shinobu. At first we notice a reaaaaaally different Araragi, it was really clear to me since I just finished owarimonogatari s2.. In the movie he is actually portraited as someone normal with no experience on the "oddities" and that was well done.. he was terrified by Kiss shot dismembered on the floor covered in blood .. took like 15 minutes for him to calm down and decide to do something xD He almost torturing himself on fire was cool too xD..because of the animation haha I also liked how hanekawa was important for that first arc, she was indeed the 'first' to become close to araragi (aside from his sisters.. that unfortunately didn't appeared) Considering everything that happened I can say that it was a bit unfair for her not ending with him. Don't get me wrong Hitagi is good too.. but Hanekawa seems somewhat more fitting.. or not dunno haha tough choice. The fights were awesome, I think that was the first time we saw Oshino moving like that, he seems really strong actually if compared to the series when he never does much. The fights were pretty entertaining not only for the fight itself but for the comic reliefs , like araragi pulling his new regenerated arm to grow and other exaggerations like that. The whole last fight him against Kiss shot was a troll fight hahaha full of non sense moments. Around the 3rd movie I've noticed that there were some pretty awesome possibilities for screen shoots to use as background The 3rd movie was the more serious one imo... the talk about how she was bored and decided to help araragi to become human again... His internal conflict once he saw she eating a human and finding out that he would had to do the same in order to survive (He quickly understood why kiss shot's first servant killed himself)... How in the end everyone losses... and, in a way, how humiliating was the end of Kiss shot... making sense on why she hated Oshino meme in the beginning of bakemonogatari. What else.. hmmm Guess that's it , I really liked .. haven't score it yet probably an 8-9 About the actual questions Nope it wasn't necessary xD.. but yah know... Monogatari can't exist without fan service lol Although I'll say the hanekawa boobs massage scene was a bit too much ... like I would feel uncomfortable watching it on a theater I think xD Also not necessary, but the trilogy was a whole was pretty gore-ish .. they love to exaggerate Also they could be just leashing out.. since it's ok to do in movies and many times they need to hold back on the tv series. it always ticks me off a bit whenever movies make art changes in comparison to the TV series. It always feels like they just did it because they legally can. That´s kind of a crap reason. well...whatever... The best thing about the movies in my opinion was that we finally got an explanation why Shinobu was so introverted and lethargic while with Meme while she turned into quite the exact opposite once she was with Koyomi. Overall i was underwhelmed with the movies but ok... We always knew Shinobu was this viscous, man-eating evil vampire in the past. But now that you actually saw it, do you look at her differently now? Will it have an impact on future seasons if we get them? (and we will :p) |
Nov 2, 2018 6:03 PM
#138
Puchkov said: Since Hajime no Ippo is one of your favorite Manga, do you plan to watch Hajime no Ippo Rising anytime soon? And do you remove Anime from your PTW list occasionally, or just add stuff there that you eventually forgot that you wanted to watch? Yes, yes I do ~ Hajime no ippo rising is on my "next 10 anime I'll watch" xD Recently I've reorganized my PTW list removing and adding stuff (mostly removing). I've been rather active in MAL for like 5 ish years and that PTW never gets smaller... If I don't actually start to watch it I'll never watch some of those anime... so I've decided to remove everything that I had a lower priority and some of that stuff you add but don't really care much. I've left only animes that I believer will be at least good on the list. Currently Ippo is on the high priority list but I'm tackling one at time, right now is Gurren Lagann, next will be probably wolf's rain. |
Nov 2, 2018 6:14 PM
#139
PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: moving on to something obvious ;) How did you like the Kizu trilogy? ^^ With me, you can go full spoiler mode so i guess it makes sense to ask again :p most important question obviously: was it necessary to make Tsubasas boobs even bigger than they already were? ;) poor girl is gonna suffer from back problems sooner than later in her life! Was it necessary to have guts spill out of her body everywhere just because in movies you can do it? -.- Alright Kizu movies time xD Out off the bat I think it's fair to praise the movie's overall animation quality. It has some outstanding moments specially on some of the action parts, like the fights. The CG was a bit off, but it got better during the movies (it was pretty distracting on the first one) As I said before the whole tone and ambient of the movie where pretty monogatari like, just with the extra budge it was a real nice trip ~ I was looking forward for this trilogy for a long time (even though it took me quite a while to watch it xD) for 2 reasons One for being the very beginning of the series and for talking more about Shinobu. At first we notice a reaaaaaally different Araragi, it was really clear to me since I just finished owarimonogatari s2.. In the movie he is actually portraited as someone normal with no experience on the "oddities" and that was well done.. he was terrified by Kiss shot dismembered on the floor covered in blood .. took like 15 minutes for him to calm down and decide to do something xD He almost torturing himself on fire was cool too xD..because of the animation haha I also liked how hanekawa was important for that first arc, she was indeed the 'first' to become close to araragi (aside from his sisters.. that unfortunately didn't appeared) Considering everything that happened I can say that it was a bit unfair for her not ending with him. Don't get me wrong Hitagi is good too.. but Hanekawa seems somewhat more fitting.. or not dunno haha tough choice. The fights were awesome, I think that was the first time we saw Oshino moving like that, he seems really strong actually if compared to the series when he never does much. The fights were pretty entertaining not only for the fight itself but for the comic reliefs , like araragi pulling his new regenerated arm to grow and other exaggerations like that. The whole last fight him against Kiss shot was a troll fight hahaha full of non sense moments. Around the 3rd movie I've noticed that there were some pretty awesome possibilities for screen shoots to use as background The 3rd movie was the more serious one imo... the talk about how she was bored and decided to help araragi to become human again... His internal conflict once he saw she eating a human and finding out that he would had to do the same in order to survive (He quickly understood why kiss shot's first servant killed himself)... How in the end everyone losses... and, in a way, how humiliating was the end of Kiss shot... making sense on why she hated Oshino meme in the beginning of bakemonogatari. What else.. hmmm Guess that's it , I really liked .. haven't score it yet probably an 8-9 About the actual questions Nope it wasn't necessary xD.. but yah know... Monogatari can't exist without fan service lol Although I'll say the hanekawa boobs massage scene was a bit too much ... like I would feel uncomfortable watching it on a theater I think xD Also not necessary, but the trilogy was a whole was pretty gore-ish .. they love to exaggerate Also they could be just leashing out.. since it's ok to do in movies and many times they need to hold back on the tv series. it always ticks me off a bit whenever movies make art changes in comparison to the TV series. It always feels like they just did it because they legally can. That´s kind of a crap reason. well...whatever... The best thing about the movies in my opinion was that we finally got an explanation why Shinobu was so introverted and lethargic while with Meme while she turned into quite the exact opposite once she was with Koyomi. Overall i was underwhelmed with the movies but ok... We always knew Shinobu was this viscous, man-eating evil vampire in the past. But now that you actually saw it, do you look at her differently now? Will it have an impact on future seasons if we get them? (and we will :p) They might've changed just to make it feel different, dunno Well tbh the hype was really huge for that trilogy, I imagine that many people don't feel like it live up to the hype. That's why hype and high expectations are dangerous hehe I liked the movies overall, the story wasn't as epic as I anticipated but still was pretty good. I wasn't really shocked nor anything, she 'just' ate a priest guy xD... I mean it is kinda logic from the anime point of view that she would eat people, so I don't think that changed they way o look at her. Actually her loneliness and boredom speak up more to me and how just the fact that someone willingly helped her and was there just to have a little chat and fun with her was so important to the point that she was willing to die just to give back araragi his 'humanity' back. That was more impacting to me to her character than she eating people. Tbh after watching the movies it makes me feel like the whole monogataii series deserves a re watch in the chronological order at some point (probably once it's over).. I feel like it might be a pretty valid new experience. |
Nov 3, 2018 12:53 AM
#140
Nov 3, 2018 2:20 PM
#141
Demonarion said: Seeing that you're getting closer to 500 completed anime, is there any anime you're planning to make your 500th? I'm still quite far away from the 500th xD Need to finish at least 86, even completing all my ptw list (excluding the not aired ones) i wouldn't be able to reach it. I would say it will take around 1 year for me to reach 500 animes completed. I've no special anime planned to be the number 500th, tbh I don't even know what was any of my previous 'land mark' animes (like the 100th, 200th, 300th or 400th) but yeah I don't normally keep track of those things ~ Actually I can check some of those landmarks since I can check my history on that anime graph thing 200th -> Sword Art Online II 300th -> Kaguya-hime no Monogatari 400th -> Overlord III Can't discover before that since I don't have the data xD That wasn't the question but still hehe |
Nov 3, 2018 4:51 PM
#142
Harus said: Tbh after watching the movies it makes me feel like the whole monogataii series deserves a re watch in the chronological order at some point (probably once it's over).. I feel like it might be a pretty valid new experience. absolutely! ^^ Chronological rewatches of out of order airing shows are cool. It was an amazing experience with Haruhi for me ^^ You should try that one hehe It´s gonna be a while with Monogatari though until it is like...crystal clear 100% that they won´t "insert" another season in the middle of the whole story. Do you consider taking part in the 2019 AWC? ;) |
Nov 3, 2018 8:25 PM
#143
PhKay said: Harus said: Tbh after watching the movies it makes me feel like the whole monogataii series deserves a re watch in the chronological order at some point (probably once it's over).. I feel like it might be a pretty valid new experience. absolutely! ^^ Chronological rewatches of out of order airing shows are cool. It was an amazing experience with Haruhi for me ^^ You should try that one hehe It´s gonna be a while with Monogatari though until it is like...crystal clear 100% that they won´t "insert" another season in the middle of the whole story. Do you consider taking part in the 2019 AWC? ;) Yeah it will be a while till they finish all the sequels and specials etc so that's a plan for the future Hmmm Tbh right now, nope i don't think I will. Because I have plenty of stuff to watch on my PTW list and most likely I'll have to go out of my way to complete stuff from the AWC and that's not something i wanna do rn. That being said I'll probably check the categories once it's announced, just then I'll decide. |
Nov 5, 2018 11:57 AM
#144
Since you recently finished Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann... what do you think of the relationship between Simon and Kamina, and Simon and Rossiu? What's your overall opinion on the character development? |
Nov 7, 2018 3:12 PM
#145
Puchkov said: Since you recently finished Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann... what do you think of the relationship between Simon and Kamina, and Simon and Rossiu? What's your overall opinion on the character development? Hmm I'll add a spoiler tag just in case ~ I feel like Simon and Kamina relationship wasn't all that well explained in the beginning of the anime, they rather show their relation through actions and interaction instead of telling us from the beginning of the anime. They have a sibling like relation that is showed in the beginning when Kamina tells Simon to call him Aniki and only later we found out a previous interaction when they were buried alive due an earthquake and had to dig their way out of it (btw pretty nice to see that story in the different points of view, it showed us how they admire one another). In any case we see how Simon looks up to Kamina as someone he can always count in, someone who always somehow manage to push it through and succeed in the end. Meanwhile Kamina keeps pushing because he knows Simon has his back and see in him the one who really never gives up... Honestly, even though I have my concerns on Kamina's characterization, they have a truly pure and brotherhood like relationship. I think many siblings might be able to relate to it. I think you might have asked those 2 relationships since there both pairs had the same "punch some sense into it" scene xD Kamina punched Simon so he don't give up fighting and to show that they were there with him.. and to trust in "me that trusts in you" and later we have the same with Simon Punching Rossiu with pretty much the same weight behind.. so Rossiu knew that he trusted in him and that he shouldn't give up ~ Still the relations is different, I don't see nor I think Simon and Rossiu have a sibling-ish relation. Maybe only the admiration part is similar. Simon meets Rossiu in his village and we see the "born" of their relationship (that we don't see with kamina and Simon) and from that point forward we can see they fighting together a couple of times when Rossiu helps Simon driving Gurren Lagann, but not much more. Later he becomes the second in command being Simon's right hand in the government and yes they probably got a lot closer, but that was more a friend/pal relationship. Overall character development... hmm I gave Gurren Lagann a high score because the show has plenty of epicness, GaR and awesomeness in it ~ But boy oh boy there a lot of characters with rather no background or development whatsoever xD Overall character development is weak... In the ones they actually focus it's fine Simon was by far the one that had the hugest development, how he learned to follow his Aniki footsteps wearing his own shoes and not trying to mimic him was great. Later having to deal with a different kind of leadership and struggling with it till the point he remember to keep being himself. Rossiu had a decent time screen to develop too in the second half, that aside most characters had a development that doesn't necessarily was important or had an influence in the plot itself. It's nice to see they growing up, getting married, having kids and stuff... but that's not really development in their characters. I can't help but to feel that Yoko was pushed to a supporting role during the show, which is a shame. edit: Forgot about Viral xD He also had an good development |
HarusNov 7, 2018 6:14 PM
Nov 8, 2018 4:14 PM
#146
Harus said: PhKay said: Harus said: Tbh after watching the movies it makes me feel like the whole monogataii series deserves a re watch in the chronological order at some point (probably once it's over).. I feel like it might be a pretty valid new experience. absolutely! ^^ Chronological rewatches of out of order airing shows are cool. It was an amazing experience with Haruhi for me ^^ You should try that one hehe It´s gonna be a while with Monogatari though until it is like...crystal clear 100% that they won´t "insert" another season in the middle of the whole story. Do you consider taking part in the 2019 AWC? ;) Yeah it will be a while till they finish all the sequels and specials etc so that's a plan for the future Hmmm Tbh right now, nope i don't think I will. Because I have plenty of stuff to watch on my PTW list and most likely I'll have to go out of my way to complete stuff from the AWC and that's not something i wanna do rn. That being said I'll probably check the categories once it's announced, just then I'll decide. alright ;) I just thought maybe you consider it since with 67 (quite diverse) anime on PTW you could probably finish at least 15 challenges with your PTW alone hehe anyways...did you follow the US midterm elections by any chance? Or were you too stressed out from politics after your own elections? ;) |
Nov 9, 2018 5:56 PM
#147
PhKay said: Harus said: PhKay said: Harus said: Tbh after watching the movies it makes me feel like the whole monogataii series deserves a re watch in the chronological order at some point (probably once it's over).. I feel like it might be a pretty valid new experience. absolutely! ^^ Chronological rewatches of out of order airing shows are cool. It was an amazing experience with Haruhi for me ^^ You should try that one hehe It´s gonna be a while with Monogatari though until it is like...crystal clear 100% that they won´t "insert" another season in the middle of the whole story. Do you consider taking part in the 2019 AWC? ;) Yeah it will be a while till they finish all the sequels and specials etc so that's a plan for the future Hmmm Tbh right now, nope i don't think I will. Because I have plenty of stuff to watch on my PTW list and most likely I'll have to go out of my way to complete stuff from the AWC and that's not something i wanna do rn. That being said I'll probably check the categories once it's announced, just then I'll decide. alright ;) I just thought maybe you consider it since with 67 (quite diverse) anime on PTW you could probably finish at least 15 challenges with your PTW alone hehe anyways...did you follow the US midterm elections by any chance? Or were you too stressed out from politics after your own elections? ;) I'll check it in January, if I manage to have a decent progress by using my PTW i might participate I still pretty stressed with our own election still... so much going on With a lot of fusions and 'abolition' of important Ministry/ministration/department (not quite sure what would be the best translation).. yeah the shit storm is only beginning here ( ̄□ ̄;) Regarding the US midterm elections I kinda kept track of it. Can't say i was following all that well. I saw a lot of campaigns asking for people to go vote. There was an expectation that the democrats would take over the congress back from the republicans, and I think that actually happened but it wasn't as huge as expected (don't know the numbers). If I'm not mistaken the senate still in favor of the republicans though There were some records breaks too, like number of jews that voted or something like that (I really don't know =x) also participation of young voters. Tbh i need to inform myself a little bit better on the subject =x |
Nov 10, 2018 3:52 PM
#148
How do you like Goblin Slayer and the current season so far? |
Nov 11, 2018 7:32 AM
#149
Nov 12, 2018 9:48 AM
#150
I agree with you, Simon and Rossiu have the best character development because the story spends more time with them; actually the development of the majority of the cast is tightly intertwined with Simon and Rossiu. A few more questions on Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann; including them in spoiler tag due to massive spoilers: What do you think of these 2 major turning points in the story: 1. Death of Kamina at episode 8. 2. The Battle of Teppelin (before and after in terms of escalating the stakes). Did you notice the absurd over the top animation quality of the Battle of Teppelin? I remember an IGN podcast in which they were discussing the insane budget / frame count for that single episode. |
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