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AirStyles said: .... Hmmm... GAHHHH!!!!! I MUST NOT READ THE NOVEL! I MUST NOT READ THE NOVEL UNTIL THIS IS OVER!!! AHHH!!!! This is so tough on me! What is Kyousuke talking about?! Where is Mio and Haruka?! What with those chains? What is this refrain people are talking about!? Anyways... Looks like Kud did some pretty bad things in the past... Prison huh... Read the VN after season 1 ;x I'll answer your questions without spoiling: Kyousuke is asking Kud if she remembers the Secret of the World. Mio and Haruka are gone because of the Secret of the World. The chains are a symbol of Kud's regret, which is related to the Secret of the World. Refrain is the unveiling and climax of the Secret of the World. Alright, well the actual reason Mio and Haruka are gone has something to do with their routes being completed in the anime, and the fact that Riki is approaching the end of Kud's route. It wasn't explicitly explained in the VN, and it wasn't pointed out by Riki in the VN, so I don't quite understand it. However, they are putting a greater emphasis on this, so it will probably have more impact in Refrain when they bring these occurrences up. |
| I think us VN readers are mentally torturing the poor anime watchers with our constant references to the "Secret of this World". Rest assured, anime watchers. Be patient, and you shall be rewarded. Character routes? They're nothing. Tears are gonna flow soon, in season 2. |
greenmush said: Haruka and Mio is suddenly missing and no one is saying anything hmmmm. Looks like someone is finally making their move. Well, I noticed that too but it doesn't worth mentioning for the mean time. |
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Vladz0r said: But Komari is still there. If I want to get technical, then I guess Mio and Haruka don't have any regrets compared to Kud, while Komari still has some regrets. After all, her route has a weak resolution. But I doubt that's the case.Alright, well the actual reason Mio and Haruka are gone has something to do with their routes being completed in the anime, and the fact that Riki is approaching the end of Kud's route. It wasn't explicitly explained in the VN, and it wasn't pointed out by Riki in the VN, so I don't quite understand it. However, they are putting a greater emphasis on this, so it will probably have more impact in Refrain when they bring these occurrences up. |
ClannadIsLove said: zakkun89 said: ...Are the people here all this crazy/hyped for refrain ? Yes. It is one of the greatest pieces of literature on the planet and is what makes this show/visual novel so great. If you want to know why, just go to YouTube and either look up my channel (ClannadIsLove) or search "Little Busters! Episode Masato" which is the entire route for Masato (38 minutes long). That, or search "Little Busters - Refrain" to see the big thing that makes the entire series. It's a 100% complete spoiler, but if you see either of these two videos you'll see why people like it so much. Honestly, I'm just sick of people going like, "WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REFRAIN!?" or "Are you this excited for Refrain!?" or your question. Yeah it might be annoying but we know what happens and it excites us, and if you don't understand you shouldn't be talking about it yet. Either read and get excited knowing you're in for a treat when you see it or just stop asking (this is for everyone, and a suggestion). Ummm I already finished the VN and read refrain,I know how great it is. I'm just saying the level of enthusiatic here exceed other places o.o |
shirayuki75 said: Vladz0r said: But Komari is still there. If I want to get technical, then I guess Mio and Haruka don't have any regrets compared to Kud, while Komari still has some regrets. After all, her route has a weak resolution. But I doubt that's the case.Alright, well the actual reason Mio and Haruka are gone has something to do with their routes being completed in the anime, and the fact that Riki is approaching the end of Kud's route. It wasn't explicitly explained in the VN, and it wasn't pointed out by Riki in the VN, so I don't quite understand it. However, they are putting a greater emphasis on this, so it will probably have more impact in Refrain when they bring these occurrences up. It's not about regrets regarding the resolution of their routes. |
shirayuki75 said: Vladz0r said: But Komari is still there. If I want to get technical, then I guess Mio and Haruka don't have any regrets compared to Kud, while Komari still has some regrets. After all, her route has a weak resolution. But I doubt that's the case.Alright, well the actual reason Mio and Haruka are gone has something to do with their routes being completed in the anime, and the fact that Riki is approaching the end of Kud's route. It wasn't explicitly explained in the VN, and it wasn't pointed out by Riki in the VN, so I don't quite understand it. However, they are putting a greater emphasis on this, so it will probably have more impact in Refrain when they bring these occurrences up. Komari's route doesn't get locked in the visual novel, while the other girls' routes do. They seem to be following the visual novel in that aspect. Basically, as Riki approached Haruka's route ending, Mio disappeared, and as he's approaching Kud's, Mio and Haruka disappeared. Komari shouldn't disappear, but Kud would presumably disappear at the end of whatever the next route is. Although, the Little Busters are barely involved in either Kurugaya or Rin's group, but Riki will probably try to call them to help with decision making or something. What I think is that once Riki is forced to muster up the courage to help each girl out, the previous ones disappear. It could be symbolic of Riki not needing them anymore, but I'm not exactly sure why they're disappearing, and the time they disappear is also a bit vague. A lot of this is my insightful speculation, but the part with Komari is right. I have some ideas for why Komari doesn't disappear, that are related to the Secret of the World. Here's my fun guess lol: *Edit* After seeing what SleepingEntity has to say, it seems we have some overlapping ideas, though I think he explained it better. I was definitely close tho ;x |
| ^ Yep. Haha...Vladz0r is also quite correct. =P |
SleepingEntityMar 10, 2013 12:03 AM
| Who is Suginami btw? Is she important in the VN or something? Strange that she had a name in this episode. |
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Stark700 said: Who is Suginami btw? Is she important in the VN or something? Strange that she had a name in this episode. She was the third of the group of girls who |
Vladz0r said: Stark700 said: Who is Suginami btw? Is she important in the VN or something? Strange that she had a name in this episode. She was the third of the group of girls who Interesting. |
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zakkun89Mar 10, 2013 12:57 AM
| You're hoping to comeback safely after going into a contaminated area/country???? WTH??? 3/5 |
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Stark700 said: Who is Suginami btw? Is she important in the VN or something? Strange that she had a name in this episode. A very minor character, but a character nonetheless. i.e. Don't expect a Suginami route. zakkun89 said: |
SleepingEntityMar 10, 2013 12:41 AM
zakkun89 said: btw,how is the flashback about Rin's uniform make sense ? Doesn't that mean they already going through Rin2 which doesnt make sense @@ It doesn't make sense, unless the events in Little Busters aren't happening in chronological order. Still, Rin 2 is supposed to be the last route, so that contradicts my theory. How Riki could have a flashback to Kud's route is also kind of weird. The only explanation is The flashbacks weren't even in the VN, but maybe it will be explained later. It seems like a sneak preview of what's to come, but I hope it's actually explained later on. |
| I haven't played the refrain yet, but this episode is stellar with so many foreshadowing moments, caught plenty of them in this episode. Bring so many mysterious vibe to Little Busters! Emotional scenes are doing their job pretty well and pacing is definitely better. I think I can safely say that this is one of the best episode so far (competing with Haruka and Mio's climax episode) and we don't even met the climax yet. This is a pretty good indicator for the capability of JC to adapt Refrain, and I will say that I am impressed pretty far. Anyway, I am thinking of creating a special thread here exclusive to anime-only watchers, how about that? This is a pretty good moment to start speculation fest. |
zeroyuki92 said: I haven't played the refrain yet, but this episode is stellar with so many foreshadowing moments, caught plenty of them in this episode. Bring so many mysterious vibe to Little Busters! Emotional scenes are doing their job pretty well and pacing is definitely better. I think I can safely say that this is one of the best episode so far (competing with Haruka and Mio's climax episode) and we don't even met the climax yet. This is a pretty good indicator for the capability of JC to adapt Refrain, and I will say that I am impressed pretty far. Anyway, I am thinking of creating a special thread here exclusive to anime-only watchers, how about that? This is a pretty good moment to start speculation fest. I think there sort of was one, but it got invaded by VN readers anyway or something. But by all means, that's probably a good idea. |
Vladz0r said: The only explanation is I don't get this adaption at all... |
DeathNikki said: OK well this isn't really relevant to this thread, but I didn't want to make a whole new thread just for this: But WTF! Wasn't Little Busters going to have 26 episodes? That's what it said here on MAL for so long, but now it says 25 episodes. What happened? OH WHAT THE............. pray to god that the mods got it wrong |
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| So I guess the source about this only have 25 epiosde was right :O Their choice on how to end this season is weird. |
| 25 eps? Awww helll NAW! That means, what? On the bright side, it could mean faster Refrain I guess. |
| Uh... So about the flashbacks... (Major VN Spoilers) edit: And I thought there ARE 26 episodes? Spoilers if you can read Japanese: http://i.imgur.com/AZf6Os4.jpg |
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SleepingEntity said: 25 eps? Awww helll NAW! That means, what? On the bright side, it could mean faster Refrain I guess. |
| Im almost certain that the mods got it wrong. we've already got episode information on episode 26 as well as the title. but anyways, anyone wanna tell me why haruka was the one who wrote the itinerary for the school trip? shes not even in their class lol |
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Funya-Usagi said: Im almost certain that the mods got it wrong. we've already got episode information on episode 26 as well as the title. but anyways, anyone wanna tell me why haruka was the one who wrote the itinerary for the school trip? shes not even in their class lol I was wondering the same thing. But an itinerary would be the same for the entire grade I guess, and maybe Kanata made her do it. |
| Well,technically we still don't have title yet...though the source says the producer himself said 25 episodes @@ |
| As an anime original viewer, this episode was absolutely amazing. Little Busters so far is barely beating the first season of Clannad in my opinion. This episode added some depth to 3 characters (Rin, Riki and Kud) as they confronted their feeling about facing the reality in front of them (lol, P4 reference). One of the best episodes of anime I've seen in a long time. And Jesus Christ, the VN fan boys should really stop bitching about each time the anime changes things from the visual novel. The fan base seriously needs to stop acting like this is another Umineko, since I'm watching this with no knowledge of the VN and still finding this anime to be a great series with an extremely charming cast of characters. |
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zakkun89 said: Well,technically we still don't have title yet...though the source says the producer himself said 25 episodes @@ seriously??.... how is this even possible.. ending on the kengo/miyuki event;; wat |
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| That next episode preview... Kud...NO COME BACK DAMN IT |
| I've got a solution! Epsiode 25 is going to be DOUBLE LENGTH!!! EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE OKAY! It they actually end it on Kengo/Koshiki, I am going to have a fit. I will be pissed. The baseball game and related events were friggin' epic. |
SleepingEntityMar 10, 2013 3:07 AM
Funya-Usagi said: zakkun89 said: Well,technically we still don't have title yet...though the source says the producer himself said 25 episodes @@ seriously??.... how is this even possible.. ending on the kengo/miyuki event;; wat It was mentioned in the same scan when they talk about Kud wafter anime posibility. I still don't get why all the recent scans now listed ep 26 though...Who knows,there might be hope and it will really be 26 eps ~ |
zakkun89 said: Funya-Usagi said: zakkun89 said: Well,technically we still don't have title yet...though the source says the producer himself said 25 episodes @@ seriously??.... how is this even possible.. ending on the kengo/miyuki event;; wat It was mentioned in the same scan when they talk about Kud wafter anime posibility. I still don't get why all the recent scans now listed ep 26 though...Who knows,there might be hope and it will really be 26 eps ~ Kud Wafter proposal? Cutting the final most important episode? Could it possibly be a joke? |
| It's not "cutting the final most important episode", probably there were planning to make it 25 episodes from the beginning. |
zakkun89 said: Vladz0r said: The only explanation is I don't get this adaption at all... |
zeroyuki92 said: It's not "cutting the final most important episode", probably there were planning to make it 25 episodes from the beginning. But we have an episode summary of ep 26... |
Seano299 said: zakkun89 said: Vladz0r said: The only explanation is I don't get this adaption at all... mm that reminds, |
SleepingEntity said: zeroyuki92 said: It's not "cutting the final most important episode", probably there were planning to make it 25 episodes from the beginning. But we have an episode summary of ep 26... I'm curious, what does the new summaries say? |
SleepingEntity said: Kud Wafter proposal? Cutting the final most important episode? Could it possibly be a joke? lol it's kinda funny you said that. It was an interview with Kawase Kohei (WB representive) and Matsukura Yuji (from J.C staff) this is part of the interview Q: what future plan do you have for the anime ? Kawase : All we can say is we will adapt all the stories,we can go as far as bringing Kud wafter on TV. Matsukura : It's a good idea,there is a high chance it will happened if we were told to do it. Kawase : Please wait for more announcement from Visual Art,we will soon see if this was just a joke or not.(laugh).For now,we're working hard and try to adapt everything. Matsukura : This is a long running project so please be patient and follow us. Seano299 said: Still didn't explain how Rin2 scene got in those flashbacks..... |
zakkun89Mar 10, 2013 4:14 AM
ElPsy said: julyan04 said: I'm curious, what does the new summaries say? Hmm.. So if the rumors are true that we will have 25 episodes for this season, what heck is this lol. Anyway, thanks for this :) |
| If there's a summary of ep. 26,I think it's pretty safe to say that it will be 26 episodes,since all of the future summaries so far are trustworthy. However,can someone post the summary for 24 and 25 as well? (along with director list,if possible). Since if we're going with ep. 26 summaries,we will see the baseball match in the second season (thus we won't see Rin 1 in the first season either) |
| If you take a look at the BD/DVD vol 4 : ep 10,11,12 vol 5 : ep 13,14,15 vol 6 : ep 16,17,18 vol 7 : ep 19,20,21 vol 8 : ep 22,23,24 vol 9 : ep 25,26 vol 9 is 1000 yen cheaper than all the other so I guess it's because vol 9 only have 2 episodes and there is no episode "27" so that made 26 that extra ep they were talking about. |
ElPsy said: But there must be two versions of vol 9 or not? One for them who not bought all 9 volumes (i know it sounds stupid but it's possible) and one for them who bought all 9 volumes, cause the special episode is only for them who bought all 9 vol or am i wrong? Edit: "The official Twitter account for the Little Busters! television anime series announced on Friday that everyone who buys the limited first editions of all nine Blu-ray Disc/DVD volumes can mail away for a Blu-ray with an unaired episode." http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-11-09/unaired-little-busters-episode-offered-to-bd/dvd-buyers So an extra BD for 1 Episode??? I'm so confused now :( The 1 extra episode isn't related to this season. Most likely an OVA. But if they're saying this season contains 25 episodes and not 26, then most likely the 26th one is the extra episode/OVA which I bet that's what are they trying to imply. Anyway, 25 episodes of LB is a very good thing. |
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