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| My speculation: The Korean S-rank team had an invisible healer, so maybe Jinwoo thought they wouldn't die, but after the healer got killed and the ant king said he will kill the king of humans, Jinwoo probably knew that a fight would be inevitable, so he decided to exchange after the ant king left for Goto. |
ZarutakuMar 16, 9:12 AM
| There's a logic why others were saved while Healer didn't. Jin woo probably put a shadow on every Korean present in the training area only activate when their life was in mortal danger. Healer wasn't there so he didn't got one. But main reason is just trash writing. Even in my logic those shadows should have activated first. When black ant first punched Cha she could have died easily but it didn't activate. He took down everyone to near death but didn't activate and only finsihed the healer. It's just a ploy to make our mc swoop in be the hero take the credit type shit. Very annoying. |
| He doesn't see exactly what happens and his soldiers received a direct order only act when situation was completely lost, but they didn't intervened when Budget Meruem was wrecking S rank hunters because they wouldn't be able to do much against him anyway. Them being activated is what Sung actually felt. Aldo, it was mentioned that there is significant stream delay. |
PiromyslMar 17, 4:01 AM
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| I think everyone here missed the point. He saved his mom. He got his happy ending and wants to enjoy it. But deeper reason is that heās not going because he wants to. He still wants to fight strong foes. He almost made 2 reckless decisions this season (thinking about fighting the A rank boss while mining and fighting Goto intensely) heās self aware of the fact heās like this and that it can cause problems for the people around him. He saw the lineup for the raid and decided not to get involved. And technically he was right. They were ready with the information everyone had. No one including Jinwoo knew about the ant king. The raid would have gone fine without that. He still had shadows watching just in case. Narratively yes the story is doing this to showcase his power. But the reason is given as well if you pay attention to what heās been thinking to himself: heās afraid that the more indulges his urge to fight he becomes further away from being the person his family knows and is instead turning into the thing he had to become to keep them safe. |
HER. That is all. |
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WaterMage said:
There's a logic why others were saved while Healer didn't. Jin woo probably put a shadow on every Korean present in the training area only activate when their life was in mortal danger. Healer wasn't there so he didn't got one.
But main reason is just trash writing. Even in my logic those shadows should have activated first. When black ant first punched Cha she could have died easily but it didn't activate. He took down everyone to near death but didn't activate and only finsihed the healer.
It's just a ploy to make our mc swoop in be the hero take the credit type shit. Very annoying.
There's a logic why others were saved while Healer didn't. Jin woo probably put a shadow on every Korean present in the training area only activate when their life was in mortal danger. Healer wasn't there so he didn't got one.
But main reason is just trash writing. Even in my logic those shadows should have activated first. When black ant first punched Cha she could have died easily but it didn't activate. He took down everyone to near death but didn't activate and only finsihed the healer.
It's just a ploy to make our mc swoop in be the hero take the credit type shit. Very annoying.
This logic presumes that the shadows are automated and told to protect. Why would they be? They were there to spy, and likely require conscious thought to activate. The black ant tore through the s-ranks in that room in what, two seconds total? That said, I wouldnāt put it past the MC to purposely wait until it was maximally valuable to himself personally to step in. A theme throughout the show has been his loss of empathy
| @ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow. He is a traitor to his country. |
| Because he's a psychopath, just like all the fandom |
WaterMage said: @ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow. He is a traitor to his country. The healers name is Byun-gu and 1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast 2. He couldn't put his soldier in Byun-gu's shadow 3. He had no way of knowing anything until Goto died 4. He can't see anything using his shadow soldiers yet |
| HER. That is all. |
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@ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow.
He is a traitor to his country.
He is a traitor to his country.
| @WaterMage This! |
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WaterMage said:
@ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow.
He is a traitor to his country.
@ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow.
He is a traitor to his country.
The healers name is Byun-gu and
1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast
2. He couldn't put his soldier in Byun-gu's shadow
3. He had no way of knowing anything until Goto died
4. He can't see anything using his shadow soldiers yet
Emrys_ said: 1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast He was watching the broadcast with his mom. The broadcast stopped when the ant king started massacring. |
BECAUSE IF HE DIDN'T WE WOULDN'T GET THIS MOMENT FOR BERU |
Yaggamy said: Emrys_ said: 1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast He was watching the broadcast with his mom. The broadcast stopped when the ant king started massacring. No, he was shown jogging in episode 22. He wasnāt watching it. His sister was with his mom |
| HER. That is all. |
| its just trash and lazy writing (why I felt this anime is meh for that reason). but lemme give some cents. Jinwoo knows that the Japanese are planning to make sure that everyone korean is dead. (i think he got this intel when he gave everyone on that gym a spy shadow.) and he simply wanna make sure that his power remains hidden with the Japanese army. but then things gets to worse and he saw that things are getting messy and he has no choice but to go |
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Aesethyr said: its just trash and lazy writing (why I felt this anime is meh for that reason). but lemme give some cents. Jinwoo knows that the Japanese are planning to make sure that everyone korean is dead. (i think he got this intel when he gave everyone on that gym a spy shadow.) and he simply wanna make sure that his power remains hidden with the Japanese army. but then things gets to worse and he saw that things are getting messy and he has no choice but to go Thatās.. no. Wtf. No one is paying attention. Heās not spying on them and he doesnāt know anything about what theyāre planning and itās got nothing to do with him or his motivations. You should understand something before you insult it. |
| HER. That is all. |
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My speculation: The Korean S-rank team had an invisible healer, so maybe Jinwoo thought they wouldn't die, but after the healer got killed and the ant king said he will kill the king of humans, Jinwoo probably knew that a fight would be inevitable, so he decided to exchange after the ant king left for Goto.
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WaterMage said:
@ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow.
He is a traitor to his country.
@ultimateinc I am trying to figure out best way to make Jin woo less bad in this scenario. If shadows are only here to spy and he just stood and see healer got killed while everyone else easily could have died then wow.
He is a traitor to his country.
The healers name is Byun-gu and
1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast
2. He couldn't put his soldier in Byun-gu's shadow
3. He had no way of knowing anything until Goto died
4. He can't see anything using his shadow soldiers yet
| @Emrys_ Ik but can't/won't try remember Korean name 1. Someone contradicts it below 2. Valid I said that too 3. ? Spoiler much dc still.. 4. Then how he figured out. Why the activated? Those are to save their lives then why didn't those trigger early against black ant |
WaterMage said: @Emrys_ Ik but can't/won't try remember Korean name 1. Someone contradicts it below 2. Valid I said that too 3. ? Spoiler much dc still.. 4. Then how he figured out. Why the activated? Those are to save their lives then why didn't those trigger early against black ant That contradiction was inaccurate. I think you got 3 and 4 mixed up and the reason he knew was because he lost contact with the one he put in gotos shadow. |
| HER. That is all. |
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Yaggamy said:
He was watching the broadcast with his mom. The broadcast stopped when the ant king started massacring.
Emrys_ said:
1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast
1. Jinwoo wasn't watching the broadcast
He was watching the broadcast with his mom. The broadcast stopped when the ant king started massacring.
No, he was shown jogging in episode 22. He wasnāt watching it. His sister was with his mom
Emrys_ said: No, he was shown jogging in episode 22. He wasnāt watching it. His sister was with his mom He just finished his daily quest when the raid started, he got home before the ant king attacked. The anime skips a lot of scenes, but he was watching the TV with his mom in the LN. |
| Wow, all the haters came crawling out of the cracks. Watch the sparing episode it explain the reason. Also stop hate watching. Touch some grass. |
| you know, maybe Jinwoo just wanted to flex his dramatic timing. Picture him leaning against a rock, checking his nonexistent watch, muttering, āEh, five more minutes, letās see if they can dodge the giant ant claws without me.ā The S-ranks are dropping like flies, and Jinwooās over here perfecting his brooding pose, waiting for the exact moment when the OST kicks in for maximum badassery. Heās not late to the party, heās fashionably late, because who doesnāt love a grand entrance when everyoneās already half-dead and begging for a savior? classic narcissist move, 10 out of 10 for style, zero for empathy. But itās also peak, Jinwoo selfishness; he couldāve saved more lives if heād acted sooner. Then again, this is Solo Leveling, not Teamwork Leveling. The dudeās whole arc is about doing things his way, consequences be damned. So, he waited because he could, because it fit his style.āš» |
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@Phosphorescence buddy wth!! š«µš¤£
| @-POPEYE- you didn't think i was serious did you š |
| I remember reading an explanation that the stream was delayed by 5-10 mins. That's a fair explanation for what happened considering they were inside. |
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| he wanted to maxx his aura farming points |
| This episode definitely had a different feel to it. We've been spoiled with previous episodes where the majority was dedicated to Jin-woo. The first thing that popped into my head was: how much real-time information is Jin-woo actually getting from his shadows? We haven't really seen much outside of him swapping with them once. Do they act like live feeds? As the Japanese hunters started dying, I started thinking maybe Jin-woo was limited to the same information we are, mainly how there was the one individual news reporter, and that might be Jin-woo's only real source of info. Outside of the last few seconds of the episode, was Jin-woo's location ever confirmed or alluded to during the rest of the episode? Then, as the episode went on, I couldn't stop focusing on how the episode felt a bit different than other episodes, with Jin-woo not being the focus. So, I started to think back to the other episode that felt like that; in season 1, it was because that episode was dedicated to strengthening our connection to the S rank hunters through the island's screen time. I figured they were doing the same with this episode. It may sound a little weird, but with how focused the series usually is on Jin-woo, it felt a bit deliberate to shift the focus so drastically. At one point, I had this kind of mistaken impression that he only sent his shadows to watch the Japanese hunters. Then, letting the Korean hunters get wiped out for some reason confused me even more. I then started wondering how the series is supposed to transition once most of the hunters are gone... We only have a few more episodes this season? But then, when the ants all started retreating into the caves, I had this feeling like, "Okay, now it makes sense." It felt like they were setting up this "hopeless" situation for the Korean hunters specifically, to set Jin-woo up to appear. Plus, it makes narrative sense ā Jin-woo doesn't really have a direct tie to the Japanese hunters, and seeing the "king" ant's actual abilities was only logical; plus, it wouldn't make a great story if the "King Ant" was instantly defeated. Short of hunters being one-shot, there was no real measure of the king's abilities, which is still kind of up in the air even as the episode ended. We simply know that the king ant basically is kicking everyone's ass instantly. So, by the end of the episode, I was thinking it was probably a mix of: Jin-woo maybe working with incomplete info, the narrative needing to build tension and make the viewers care about what happens to the S-Ranks, and also strategically holding back to let the King Ant's strength get established before he intervened. That's how I was reading it, anyway. |
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you know, maybe Jinwoo just wanted to flex his dramatic timing. Picture him leaning against a rock, checking his nonexistent watch, muttering, āEh, five more minutes, letās see if they can dodge the giant ant claws without me.ā The S-ranks are dropping like flies, and Jinwooās over here perfecting his brooding pose, waiting for the exact moment when the OST kicks in for maximum badassery. Heās not late to the party, heās fashionably late, because who doesnāt love a grand entrance when everyoneās already half-dead and begging for a savior? classic narcissist move, 10 out of 10 for style, zero for empathy.
But itās also peak,
Jinwoo selfishness; he couldāve saved more lives if heād acted sooner. Then again, this is Solo Leveling, not Teamwork Leveling. The dudeās whole arc is about doing things his way, consequences be damned. So, he waited because he could, because it fit his style.āš»
But itās also peak,
Jinwoo selfishness; he couldāve saved more lives if heād acted sooner. Then again, this is Solo Leveling, not Teamwork Leveling. The dudeās whole arc is about doing things his way, consequences be damned. So, he waited because he could, because it fit his style.āš»
| @Phosphorescence So basically Jin-woo was pulling a "Cid" from The Eminence in Shadow? >_< |
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